What does "O&O" and "HD LIL" mean? I do get the Fox feed from NY, they turned that one on no problem, not sure why. Please explain, thanks. I still don't see why they care since I pay for the digital feed and get that on my other TV's, seems they are just being dickweeds. BTW, I tried the larger antenna, it still did nto work, I have a fire station by my house, guy said that may be it, but I have no clue, that's just speculation on my part. I can never get local Fox, I can get ABC, and I have to climb my but up there but can move it around to get NBC and then CBS, but never both at the same time. If and when I can get local HD from DTV, if my locals are as bad as the PQ on the digital signal which for some reason sucks here in Memphis compared to the other channels, someone explained why to me a while back but I don;t understand it, something to do with Memphsi stations not being willing to split the costs of some direct signal to DTV so they have to pull it off the air and convert it so it loses strength, i'll just keep climbing on the roof. The PQ on my locals is horrid I tell you, and I am not one to complain about PQ because compared to cable around here (time Warener) it's great, but on the locals it's generally horrible.