I can't see any incentive for them to sell any at all, at least early on. Unless they want to raise a pile of cash- and if that's the case, it means the price ain't gonna be cheap.
Any purchase pricing for the Hopper 3?
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I like to install my own stuff too when it is economical. For you, still being a retailer, I can see it. I have one leased HWS from Dish and a leased Joey. I was going to have to pay $199 for an additional HWS (or $99, at the time), anyway to make a long story short, to get four HWS, I purchased three and installed them myself. I didn't like being on the EA, and wanted to swap to WA, so I just ordered three 30" Winegard dishes and did a 3 dish setup since I had a Superbuddy anyway for FTA use. I'll have to go back with the 1000.2 and get them to make it WA for the H3 since it uses the Hybrid LNBF, I figure that I can upgrade through Dish for cheaper than retail since I will need three more Joey's in addition to the Hopper 3, since I reckon that I will be with them anyway, I don't mind the two year contract.
I just like not being in contract with DISH and I like doing my own installs. I've been doing them for over 12 years now on all 3 of my accounts. Besides when your not in contract it gives me more leverage for money off my bill and other freebies every year.
Being under contract isn't that big of a deal. I can get just as many deals as you can if I play my cards right. I've had my own account with Dish for about 10 years now and I've been under contract for every one of them because of upgrading.
I'm still a long time customer, have auto pay, have the top equipment, have high level programming and paperless billing. These are the things that matter, not being under contract.
The thing I can't understand about buying equipment vs renting it is the potential for choosing to change providers in the future. What happens if I decide that I like another provider's service more and want to switch to them? It is nothing personal against Dish or any other service, just a generic question of whether it's better to own or rent equipment from any of the services.
For example, if I owned the equipment I use with Dish, it would become unusable if I someday switched to DirecTV, Comcast, etc., because Dish's machines will not work with another company's, and vice versa. Or am I wrong in this assumption?
Other questions come to mind, such as having to spend additional money on another DVR if a purchased one goes bad after the warranty runs out -- whereas Dish would provide a replacement if a rented one went bad.
Is there that significant of a savings in purchasing, instead of renting, that makes this worthwhile? I suppose I also could be overlooking other reasons to own the equipment, but I can't think of any offhand.
For example, if I owned the equipment I use with Dish, it would become unusable if I someday switched to DirecTV, Comcast, etc., because Dish's machines will not work with another company's, and vice versa. Or am I wrong in this assumption?
Other questions come to mind, such as having to spend additional money on another DVR if a purchased one goes bad after the warranty runs out -- whereas Dish would provide a replacement if a rented one went bad.
Is there that significant of a savings in purchasing, instead of renting, that makes this worthwhile? I suppose I also could be overlooking other reasons to own the equipment, but I can't think of any offhand.
I'm betting none will be for sale for awhile. Demand could be off the charts if posters here is any indication.
Other than reselling the equipment, there is not a lot of difference. The monthly fees are identical as they are not lease fees but active component fees. You can turn off owned equipment for months at a time when not in use and not pay for them, which is good for RVers and homes where they have seasonal visitors.
If you own it and switch providers you can sell it or you can save it. Chances are you may return to Dish and you can activate your owned receiver again without a contract once again.
Owning my receivers I can sell them on Ebay if I want to. I can also trade them in towards credit for the newest receivers from dishdepot.com. No tax on my purchase and free shipping and handling. I have done all my upgrades from dishdepot.com for about 13 years now. I also get my new dishes ,lnbs, ota tuner , etc, from dishdepot. If my receiver craps out , DISH will still replace it and I just take out the DISH insurance plan while I need it.
I like to own my stuff, not lease. I own my two cars and have NEVER leased and don't plan on it either. When I call DISH and say I want some money off my bill and other freebies , they barely bat an eye at my request. With 19 years with DISH this month, 3 accounts , autopay-never been late on payments, and excellent credit of 830, why shouldn't they do all they can to keep my business. OWNING allows me the leverage I need. This last year alone I will have saved $780.00 off my bill due to the $65.00 off my monthly bill credits I have been receiving since May of 2015, which ends this April of 2016. That will allow me to pay for my hopper 3 upgrade with no problem, when the time is right for me.
The last perk for me and this is a big one: NO DISH tech tramping around my house and in my house trying to install a dish or receiver in my house. I have 3 dogs and it is a nightmare to keep them from being in the house and dealing with the barking etc. I also can do my own installs with the instructions provided from dishdepot.com. Mark at dd has even given me wiring diagrams in my box so I can easily do my install. He did this for me with my hopper install and my super joey install when I did those too.
I like to own my stuff, not lease. I own my two cars and have NEVER leased and don't plan on it either. When I call DISH and say I want some money off my bill and other freebies , they barely bat an eye at my request. With 19 years with DISH this month, 3 accounts , autopay-never been late on payments, and excellent credit of 830, why shouldn't they do all they can to keep my business. OWNING allows me the leverage I need. This last year alone I will have saved $780.00 off my bill due to the $65.00 off my monthly bill credits I have been receiving since May of 2015, which ends this April of 2016. That will allow me to pay for my hopper 3 upgrade with no problem, when the time is right for me.
The last perk for me and this is a big one: NO DISH tech tramping around my house and in my house trying to install a dish or receiver in my house. I have 3 dogs and it is a nightmare to keep them from being in the house and dealing with the barking etc. I also can do my own installs with the instructions provided from dishdepot.com. Mark at dd has even given me wiring diagrams in my box so I can easily do my install. He did this for me with my hopper install and my super joey install when I did those too.
I'm the same way. I'd prefer to buy a hopper 3 at this point. That way I can cancel dish if I want and sell the receiver. The biggest thing for me is I don't want a tech in my house. Being a former dish tech I know they don't have enough time to deal with a complex media closet with multiple mirrors, etc, like I have. I've purchased probably 12 new recovers and never lost one. Had to put a new HDD in a 722 but that's it.
It's just much less stressful to buy the equipment overall. The hopper 3 seems like such a cool product I wouldnt mind singing a contract. I used to have a retailer friend I could get the equipment from, install, and they activated it. Not anymore though. Hopefully production ramps up and they will sell them retail.
It's just much less stressful to buy the equipment overall. The hopper 3 seems like such a cool product I wouldnt mind singing a contract. I used to have a retailer friend I could get the equipment from, install, and they activated it. Not anymore though. Hopefully production ramps up and they will sell them retail.
I agree with everything you said other than not being under contract giving you the leverage you need. I argue that being a long time, high paying, good customer is the best leverage you need. I can get any of the discounts you've requested in the past and I've been under contract every year for almost 10 years.
That makes no sense to me. If they don't give you a discount you can't cancel unless you pay the reminder of the contract. That takes away the leverage to me. I've never got better than $10 a month off, customer since 2001, top 250 since 2001 and HD later. Own all equipment and never a tech visit or install.
Granted I'm not a high end paying customer, but dish didn't really give me much discount. I'm tempted to actually cancel to see what happens.
Granted I'm not a high end paying customer, but dish didn't really give me much discount. I'm tempted to actually cancel to see what happens.
Ask for the loyalty department and see if what they will offer for you to stay,but be prepared to have a good reason why you want to cancel. Prices too high, FEES too high etc. It never hurts to bargain with them. It is EVERYONE's right to do this with any company you do business with ,because you are the customer and you keep them in business.
I did speak to the loyalty dept lol. I clearly said the price was getting too high and I was considering being a cord cutter. Tv is simply not that huge of deal to me, it's nice to relax and all but not worth $100 a month to me. My son would be the most upset due to no cartoons but most are on Netflix or even YouTube.
I guess I'm just not a good negotiator lol...
You don't have to believe me but not only have I been a customer I've been a retailer. When you know how their company works and you subscribe to their top programming along with equipment every year they tend to want to keep you.
You really think that small cancellation fee is better than keeping me for more years? My bill is always over $100 even after discounts. Why let me cancel for a couple hundred bucks when they can keep and make thousands.
