Analyst Predicts Dish, T-Mobile & Amazon Super Union

[AZ.]

Well, I still see there's reasonable expectation that Dish and Amazon will at the least, work closer together in the future.

As far as Ive read and people who are in the know.....Amazon is the largest data storage company in the world....anything that any one streams from Netflix comes from Amazons servers and a few other on top of that.....

Wonder what there angle is on this?.....We should hear something soon.

 

[pattykay]

What, you trust snopes?

"But I have high hopes someone will point you toward snopes and debunk that crazy junk you're spewing constantly."
-Weird Al Yankovic, "Stop Forwarding That Crap To Me"

 

[bluegras]

DishNetwork,AmazonInWirelessTalks
Amazon would become a foundational customer of the wireless network Dish Network hopes to launch within the next few years. It’s not clear if the discussions also involve an investment by Amazon in Dish Network and/or its potential wireless business.
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/104189/dish-network-amazon-in-wireless-talks

 

[comfortably_numb]

I still don't see an advantage to Dish launching a cellco. If TMO and Sprint merge, I suppose that could leave room for a fourth player, but doesn't this seem like reinventing the wheel? It would take them years to achieve the level of coverage of a Verizon or ATT, and what reason would people have to switch? Unless they have some tremendously groundbreaking tech we can't live without, it seems DOA to me

 

[Juan]

I still don't see an advantage to Dish launching a cellco. If TMO and Sprint merge, I suppose that could leave room for a fourth player, but doesn't this seem like reinventing the wheel? It would take them years to achieve the level of coverage of a Verizon or ATT, and what reason would people have to switch? Unless they have some tremendously groundbreaking tech we can't live without, it seems DOA to me

The need towers or something to put the cell sites on

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[comfortably_numb]

The need towers or something to put the cell sites on

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True, and under certain scenarios they can lease space on existing towers. However, this is still starting from scratch. Seems like a huge capital investment for little or no guarantee of ROI. I can almost hear the Sharks saying, "For that reason, I'm out."

 

[HobbyTalk]

The need towers or something to put the cell sites on

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The cell companies no longer "own" many towers, they have sold them off and are leasing them back.

 

[HobbyTalk]

I still don't see an advantage to Dish launching a cellco. If TMO and Sprint merge, I suppose that could leave room for a fourth player, but doesn't this seem like reinventing the wheel? It would take them years to achieve the level of coverage of a Verizon or ATT, and what reason would people have to switch? Unless they have some tremendously groundbreaking tech we can't live without, it seems DOA to me

Dish states they are not looking to build out a conventional cell network but a NB-IoT network. Their statement:

“We do not believe that it serves the public interest or makes business sense to build out a 4G/LTE network now that would duplicate networks already offered by the wireless incumbents, and subsequently require an almost immediate upgrade in order to be competitive. Instead, Dish plans to deploy a 5G-capable network, focused on supporting IoT – the first to be deployed in these bands anywhere in the world…. This network will not be burdened with a requirement to be backward-compatible with legacy services.”

 

[comfortably_numb]

Dish states they are not looking to build out a conventional cell network but a NB-IoT network. Their statement:

“We do not believe that it serves the public interest or makes business sense to build out a 4G/LTE network now that would duplicate networks already offered by the wireless incumbents, and subsequently require an almost immediate upgrade in order to be competitive. Instead, Dish plans to deploy a 5G-capable network, focused on supporting IoT – the first to be deployed in these bands anywhere in the world…. This network will not be burdened with a requirement to be backward-compatible with legacy services.”

Even so, they have competition now before they even begin. Verizon has been working on 5G for over a year now.

 

[HobbyTalk]

Even so, they have competition now before they even begin. Verizon has been working on 5G for over a year now.

V is not working a NB-IoT system, what they are doing is for normal cell service.

 

[Juan]

V is not working a NB-IoT system, what they are doing is for normal cell service.

Bzzzz wrong..you need to see what they are deploying in Boston

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[HobbyTalk]

Bzzzz wrong..you need to see what they are deploying in Boston

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If you are talking about Cat-M1 that runs over the 4G LTE network than that is a different animal then true NB-IoT.

 

[Juan]

If you are talking about Cat-M1 that runs over the 4G LTE network than that is a different animal then true NB-IoT.

5g network..nothing to do with 4g

 

[comfortably_numb]

http://www.verizon.com/about/news/unparalleled-network-leadership-doing

 

[HobbyTalk]

5g network..nothing to do with 4g

Currently V is deploying Cat-M1 using the 4G LTE and may at some point switch to true NB-IoT. What they are doing is just cobbing together some IoT features into current tech. True NB-IoT will require all new hardware that V is not installing. According to their own press release (per the above link) they say

"And the future use of 600 MHz spectrum – only good in the U.S. and not globally - will take some time to figure out and deploy widely, especially in busy urban locations."

This is the spectrum that Dish has large holdings in and will be using.