An OTA Stumper

[KAB]

In Indy, Wish (8), the CW outlet, has not been on Dish for going on 3 years. Here's the kicker. When I wach the channel OTA on the H3, I can't...pixelation, banding, audio drop, freezing, etc. Yes, I have properly pointed antenna. BUT, when I go upstairs to watch via wireless Joey, it plays as perfect as a sat channel. Recording is hit and mis, from perfect to a mess. I am using AIR TV dongle, but same thing appened with the old single channel. Any ideas about this "anomaly"?

 

[TheKrell]

That is a stumper. You have only one H3, correct? That being the case, there is something wrong with that H3 which I have never heard of before.

Just to cover all bases, when WISH is badly pixelated on the H3, does the Joey simultaneously play fine? That is what I assumed in my "bum H3" hypothesis above.

Where is your antenna? Perhaps your body eclipses the station when watching the H3, but doesn't when watching the Joey.

 

[KAB]

That is a stumper. You have only one H3, correct? That being the case, there is something wrong with that H3 which I have never heard of before.

Just to cover all bases, when WISH is badly pixelated on the H3, does the Joey simultaneously play fine? That is what I assumed in my "bum H3" hypothesis above.

Where is your antenna? Perhaps your body eclipses the station when watching the H3, but doesn't when watching the Joey.

Both my original and replacement Hopper have done same thing. Yes, the joey simultaneously plays finel Antenna (flat) is on top of bookcase where the Hopper is about 7' below.

 

[TheKrell]

Antenna (flat) is on top of bookcase where the Hopper is about 7' below.

I see a rooftop or at least an attic antenna in your future.

 

[KAB]

I see a rooftop or at least an attic antenna in your future.

No, not for just a CW station I watch 2 shows on. Can watch with Roku.

 

[bnewt]

I had a similar issue with an ota sub channel & HWS
With the HWS, I could not get that station but I could go to any other tv in the house and watch it directly from the antenna
At times, there would be picture with no audio. Just never could get that station using either ota dongle, but never an issue on the tv direct from the antenna

 

[KAB]

I had a similar issue with an ota sub channel & HWS
With the HWS, I could not get that station but I could go to any other tv in the house and watch it directly from the antenna
At times, there would be picture with no audio. Just never could get that station using either ota dongle, but never an issue on the tv direct from the antenna

This particular station is know to have problems with anthenna "channel sharing". It's shared station (fox) is loud and clear. BUT it still does not explain the Hopper/Joey difference.

 

[pamajestic]

You guys may find this one hard to believe but I have definitely seen this before in my market. This is because WISH is using a digital replacement translator on channel 26 in addition to their regular broadcasting on channel 9. The hopper is trying to display channel 9 when tuned and I suspect the Joey is displaying channel 26. In my case the two towers for WGAL are in two different directions 90° apart however WISH has both antennas on the same tower. Now with VIP equipment you could delete channel 9 and manually enter 26. You can not do that with hoppers. Somehow you need to get the channel scan to skip or disregard channel 9. Maybe try rescanning and cover the antenna with aluminum foil for the first 20% of the scan? It may take a couple of scans to get the timing down.

 

[KAB]

You guys may find this one hard to believe but I have definitely seen this before in my market. This is because WISH is using a digital replacement translator on channel 26 in addition to their regular broadcasting on channel 9. The hopper is trying to display channel 9 when tuned and I suspect the Joey is displaying channel 26. In my case the two towers for WGAL are in two different directions 90° apart however WISH has both antennas on the same tower. Now with VIP equipment you could delete channel 9 and manually enter 26. You can not do that with hoppers. Somehow you need to get the channel scan to skip or disregard channel 9. Maybe try rescanning and cover the antenna with aluminum foil for the first 20% of the scan? It may take a couple of scans to get the timing down.

Finally, something that makes sense,

 

[TheKrell]

Finally, something that makes sense,

Except for this part.

BUT it still does not explain the Hopper/Joey difference.

 

[Bobby]

Except for this part.

That is correct, the Hopper has the OTA module and the Joey gets its OTA signal via MoCa from that same Hopper. Now, if there are two Hoppers with two OTA modules there could be something to this.

 

[MikeD-C05]

In case you didn't know it CW has a website and you can stream for FREE any content. But it does come with commercials you can't skip. The video comes out in HD over the website, unlike my local CW which is standard def. It used to be in 720p until the local company for KFDM decided to take that hd and use it for the Fox station, when they moved it over to the same antenna from where it was.

www.cwtv.com

 

[KAB]

In case you didn't know it CW has a website and you can stream for FREE any content. But it does come with commercials you can't skip. The video comes out in HD over the website, unlike my local CW which is standard def. It used to be in 720p until the local company for KFDM decided to take that hd and use it for the Fox station, when they moved it over to the same antenna from where it was.

www.cwtv.com

That's what I meant when I said I could watch on Roku.

 

[Peter Parker]

In Indy, Wish (8), the CW outlet, has not been on Dish for going on 3 years. Here's the kicker. When I wach the channel OTA on the H3, I can't...pixelation, banding, audio drop, freezing, etc. Yes, I have properly pointed antenna. BUT, when I go upstairs to watch via wireless Joey, it plays as perfect as a sat channel. Recording is hit and mis, from perfect to a mess. I am using AIR TV dongle, but same thing appened with the old single channel. Any ideas about this "anomaly"?

I have encountered the exact opposite. One station is viewable from my Hopper but not on any Joey.