Amiko HD-8240 (Again)

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cyberham

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I'm throwing out this model number again. In past, responses have come from those who had no experience with it, but were nevertheless negative on it. I have no knowledge about this receiver, either for or against. I only want to know the facts. Does anybody actually have one, or have you actually used one?
 
I'm pretty sure fridgefta.info is the home site for that bunch of receivers, so you may get a better response there about questions for it.

p.s. Why is it when I see your posts, I read them as a cat speaking with Morgan Freeman's voice? lol.
 
I'd prefer to also see a review from people here. My reason is that I know this group want to use FTA receivers as I do: legally. I want the ethernet port, for example, so I can add the receiver to my home network, not for the other reason. Its specifications read well, but I know first-hand experience is critical.

As one who is individually sophisticated, I prefer the term "feline" to the "c" word. I take it as a high compliment if I sound like Morgan.
 
I'm pretty sure fridgefta.info is the home site for that bunch of receivers, so you may get a better response there about questions for it.

p.s. Why is it when I see your posts, I read them as a cat speaking with Morgan Freeman's voice? lol.
I was thinking Whoopi Goldberg myself, just the way the cheeks look under those glasses ;)
 
I have an Amiko Mini HD that I haven't used too much, mostly because it is new and the MicroHD was my first FTA receiver. I have it hooked up now so I can draw some conclusions in direct comparison to the MicroHD. I can't give a full review because I'm not completely familiar with it.

The MiniHD is functionally equivalent to the 8240, at least that's what I'm lead to believe.

Some problematic TPs on the MicroHD are tuned wthout issues on the MiniHD, namely the LPBS off 87 SES1. The MicroHD tunes them with a strong signal, then over 5 seconds or so they will fall out of lock. The signal stays consistent with a lock on the MiniHD. The RTV/PBJ ku signals off 83 cannot be locked with the MicroHD. The MiniHD locks them without issue.

The scan of a single TP is usually much quicker on the MiniHD. Entering the MiniHD menu and adding specific TPs and doing a tp scan is much easier and quicker on the Mini due to the menu layout and one-button push (green?) to tp scan.

The Mini remote has a much better feel (build quality) and functionality than the MicroHD. Navigating the MicroHD system menu for antenna and setup is clunky in that the response is often delayed or doubled upon a button push. Sometimes the MicroHD gets caught in a series of executions, like memory gets full or a processor gets bugged down. I've been stuck waiting for the unit to proceed through a series of remote commands, taking 5+ seconds between responses.

Other quirks in navigating the MicroHD menus require some work-arounds when switching between satellite/antenna setup, and TP scans. Example; if I want to do a TP scan, I have to enter the satellite scan menu, back out then enter the tp scan menu, just to avoid the MicroHD trying to move the dish to some other location than the one I'm on. Going into the Antenna setup menu is frustrating in that the navigation is clunky and delayed due to the automatic command trying to move the satellite.

One thing I do not like about the MiniHD when compared to the MicroHD is in running the DVR function. The MicroHD gives you one button push to be at the timer setup or program playback menu. The MiniHD requires 5-6 button pushes to get to the DVR menu. The MicroHD will display the timers in a list so you can see about 10 at a time. The MiniHD presents the timers on a screen, one at a time. That makes it tough for guys like me with terrible short term memory:)

I much prefer channel navigation on the MiniHD. You can choose from satellites and channels in a matrix, whereas the MicroHD presents the information sequentially in a single list. On the MiniHD, I can pick a satellite and see the channels without having to tune them. I can then choose a different satellite to see its channels. All without tuning to the channel.

I'm not meaning to bag on the MicroHD, but it's the only receiver that I can draw comparisons to. I do have an AzBox Premium HD+, but I've only used it to scan specific TPs for 4:2:2 broadcast.

If you have a specific question on the Amiko, I can try to answer it or at least see how the Amiko behaves in some scenario.

I have the MiniHD and MicroHD running a Geosat Pro 90cm on an SG9120B hitting 30w to 125w, and an 8' channelmaster. I swap them out, so they see the same switch setup for my comparisons.

Another point of comparison, the MicroHD can be assigned a diseqc 1.2 location directly in the menu. It appears the MiniHD doesn't offer that ability, but assigns diseqc 1.2 slots randomly. This is the reason I haven't been using the MiniHD to directly control the 8' VBOX controller, which is completely programmed for all the sat locations.

I have not done a bunch of blind scans with the MiniHD to be able to draw a comparison. But I have done programmed TP scans. Like the MiniHD single TP scan performance mentioned above, the multiple TP scans are completed much quicker than the MicroHD scans.
 
Some problematic TPs on the MicroHD are tuned wthout issues on the MiniHD, namely the LPBS off 87 SES1. The MicroHD tunes them with a strong signal, then over 5 seconds or so they will fall out of lock. The signal stays consistent with a lock on the MiniHD. The RTV/PBJ ku signals off 83 cannot be locked with the MicroHD.

Thanks for the review. Strange... Never have heard anyone mention that these channels having any problems before. The LPBS and Luken channels lock and display programming consistently on a microHD. Record BBC on LP daily. Sounds like a switch setting.
 
I watch LPB on 87W regularly and also Retro and Tuff TV on 83W. I have no problem locking these with my microHD or previously with my S9. I use no switches, but my location in NS means my received signals are probably lower than most others receive. Also, I have a 200-foot run of RG6 from dish to receiver.
 
Example; if I want to do a TP scan, I have to enter the satellite scan menu, back out then enter the tp scan menu, just to avoid the MicroHD trying to move the dish to some other location than the one I'm on.
This has bothered me too. And each time you go into either of the menus mentioned, that $%&^ Dish Moving message comes up and you have to cancel it.
 
I'll double check the switch settings on the MicroHD... when I can commandeer the TV away from SWMBO again.

I'd like to have the extra gain from that 40x44 dish, cyberham. I'm sure it helps immensely.
 
does it have bandstacked LNB settings?
thanks

I've never used "bandstacked" lnbs before, so I'm not sure what settings are needed. There are settings for dual LO frequencies, Universal lnbs, user selectable dual LO settings and single LOs.

Sorry, I'm not that knowledgeable on bandstacked.

EDIT:

I looked at the MicroHD LNB settings and it says Bandstacked with the dual LO frequencies fairly close together, so I assume this is the bandstacked setting. There are settings like this on the MiniHD. I'm looking at them now (MiniHD), there are settings for:

Standard- single LO
User- independent 1st and 2nd LO settings, C or ku
Inicable- 9750 and 10200 or 10600
Universal- any combination of ku frequencies

So it looks to me like the answer is Yes, it does bandstacked lnbs.
 
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I use bandstacked lnbs on my setup c band and ku band I only scan vertical transponders like what Ice told me when using a bandstacked lnb. I use that on my micro hd.

Dan Rose
 
Thanks for the review. Strange... Never have heard anyone mention that these channels having any problems before. The LPBS and Luken channels lock and display programming consistently on a microHD. Record BBC on LP daily. Sounds like a switch setting.

I too have had similar issues with the LPB channels on 87W with my MicroHD and reported them on the forum last year. I've tried three different LNBFs on my P* 1.0M dish (original P*, SatAV SL1PLL and an Avenger PLL) with the same results. Perhaps there's a batch of uHDs with some bad chips?
 
Arrange an RMA if you would like to have the unit tested. Highly unlikely that a hardware issue would only affect one transponder.

Thanks...I may at some point but its not a high priority atm. I agree it's unlikely a hardware issue with the receiver, more likely a signal issue--maybe too strong and overloads the Input until AGC or something can kick in? That signal is consistently the strongest I see.

To the OP: Good work and thanks for the review and comparison. It's nice to see the good and bad of both receivers.
 
I've never used "bandstacked" lnbs before, so I'm not sure what settings are needed. There are settings for dual LO frequencies, Universal lnbs, user selectable dual LO settings and single LOs.

Sorry, I'm not that knowledgeable on bandstacked.

EDIT:

I looked at the MicroHD LNB settings and it says Bandstacked with the dual LO frequencies fairly close together, so I assume this is the bandstacked setting. There are settings like this on the MiniHD. I'm looking at them now (MiniHD), there are settings for:

Standard- single LO
User- independent 1st and 2nd LO settings, C or ku
Inicable- 9750 and 10200 or 10600
Universal- any combination of ku frequencies

So it looks to me like the answer is Yes, it does bandstacked lnbs.

might be closer to a maybe.
It needs to hold 18 volts Horiz and Vert or it will mess with my switch setup as the microhd does. work around would be to scan wider.
 
Why is it when I see your posts, I read them as a cat speaking with Morgan Freeman's voice? lol.

I'd say more like Morpheus w/ a slight touch of Winston Churchill (Pet Sematary)

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I wanted to wrap up my current thoughts on the Amiko MiniHD as compared to the MicroHD. They both perform well enough with some little idiosyncrasies that are not too bad to deal with.

1) The MiniHD would be my preference by a significant amount over the MicroHD if I was a user that just tuned to channels and hopped from satellite to satellite. The menu on the MiniHD is superior for this type of use. Getting in and scanning in a TP is easier and quicker.

2) The biggest fault of the MiniHD is the time keeping of the internal clock. Sure, the MicroHD has some issues, but they are countered by simply leaving the unit powered on. The MiniHD loses about 5-10 minutes per day no matter how I try to counter this. I can set it to use the satellite time, which would work for 125 PBS, but I need to go to other locations too. I try to DVR quite a bit, and the time keeping makes scheduled DVR events almost impossible without constant time realignment. For this reason, if you need the DVR feature the MicroHD works much better.

If the time keeping of the MiniHD were not an issue, I'd use it exclusively. But as it is, the MicroHD is the choice for my main FTA receiver. Two seemingly simple changes would vault the Amiko MiniHD far ahead; consistent time keeping and one button access to the DVR and playback menu.
 
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