Come on that's not right , I had them install a 30" dish because of rain fade, wait your right , I forgot that didn't help either, with just a good rain I still lost my Voom LOL, I don't have them anymore . Now I did last night loose my D signal for about 20 minutes this is the 1st time I have ever lost it for this long in the 8 years I had them and it was raining so hard and heavy from Ivan I could not see my hand in front of my face but it did come back on.