Always Read The Fine Print

Scott Greczkowski

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Here is the new Dish Network Promo Pamphlet for new customers.

Read it carefully and you will see a few interesting things...

ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT. :)
 

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Dear God :yikes

Quick, somebody point me towards the nearset on-line J.D. program so I can make sense of this thing!

Does anyone remember the Saturday Night Live skit for "Happy Fun Ball"?
 
The Line I like is:

No more then two dual tuner receivers per account are permitted (including no more then one ViP622 receiver)
 
Scott Greczkowski said:
The Line I like is:

No more then two dual tuner receivers per account are permitted (including no more then one ViP622 receiver)
What's wrong with that? One 622, one 625. Done.
 
*edits* HUGE text below. But here's the funny thing I found while copy and pasting (I'm not kidding):

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For those that can't read it and zoom in ;)

TERMS AND cONDITIONS
All EQUIpMENT REMAINS THE pROpERTy OF DISH NETWORK AT All TIMES AND MUST
BE RETURNED TO DISH NETWORK WITHIN FIFTEEN DAyS OF AccOUNT DEAcTIVATION OR
cUSTOMER MUST pAy AN UNRETURNED EQUIpMENT FEE AS FOllOWS: Vip 622 DVR – $400;
DISH player-DVR 522 and 625 – $300; DISH 322 and Vip 211 – $200; DISH 311 – $100; Outdoor
lNBF and Quad Switch – $100. customer pays a $49.99 Activation Fee. customer must pay a $99
lease upgrade fee for a second DISH player-DVR receiver. customer must pay a $49.99 lease
upgrade fee for the Vip 211 receiver. customer must pay a $299.99 lease upgrade fee for the Vip
622 DVR receiver. The lease upgrade fees are not deposits and are non-refundable. Offer requires
qualifying programming purchase. customer must provide Social Security Number (or the last
4 digits of the Social Security Number) and a valid major credit card. participation is subject to
credit approval. Qualifying package price includes a monthly equipment rental fee for the first
receiver, based on model of receiver: $5.00 for DISH player-DVR 522/625, DISH 322, DISH 311;
$6.00 for Vip 622 DVR, Vip 211. A monthly equipment rental fee will be charged for each receiver
beyond the first, based on model of receiver: $5.00/mo. per DISH player-DVR 522/625, DISH 322,
DISH 311; $6.00/mo. per Vip 622 DVR, Vip 211. Additional charges apply for other configurations.
participating retailers may require additional terms and conditions.
The first DISH Network bill covers the first two months of service. All future bills will be for
one month of service. A customer who subscribes to qualifying programming and submits a
redemption form and copy of a bill with DISH Network services within 60 days of activation will
receive a $10.00 credit each month for up to 10 consecutive months. customer will forfeit any
remaining credits in the case of a downgrade from qualifying programming of America’s Top
120, DISH latino Max, DishHD Silver, latino HD gold or higher, or service disconnection prior
to 10 months of credits. Maximum number of monthly credits is 10. A customer who activates
and subscribes to qualifying movie package will receive a credit for each of the first 3 months.
After 3 months, movie package programming will continue to be billed at then-current price
unless customer elects to downgrade within 30 days of end of 3-month period. With an 18-
month commitment, customer will receive DISH Home protection plan at no cost for length of
commitment. At the end of the 18-month commitment period, customer must call DISH Network
to cancel DISH Home protection plan or a $5.99 monthly charge will apply for the service. There
will not be a change of Service Fee for these downgrades.
Digital home advantage offer is available from DiSh network and participating retailers for new, first-time
DiSh network residential customers (only 1 per household) in the continental United States between
2/01/06 and 4/30/06. all prices, packages and programming subject to change without notice. number of
channels may decline. local and state sales taxes may apply. Where applicable, monthly equipment rental
fees and programming are taxed separately. activation Fee is completely non-refundable once the system is
activated. the Digital home advantage includes a satellite tv system with an eligible configuration of up to
4 tuners, Standard Professional installation and choice of qualifying programming, including america’s top
180, america’s top 120, america’s top 60 Plus, america’s top 60, DiSh latino max, DiSh latino Dos, DiSh
latino, great Wall tv Package, DishhD Bronze, DishhD Silver, DishhD gold, latino hD Bronze, latino hD
Silver and latino hD gold. other programming may qualify. For this offer, Standard Professional installation
includes typical installation of one DiSh 500 or DiSh 1000 antenna (or one SuperDiSh antenna if required),
typical hook-up of up to 4 tuners to up to 4 tvs and equipment testing. additional charge of $200 may apply
for a SuperDiSh antenna required for certain international programming. more complex installations may
require additional fees; other installation restrictions apply. Prices valid at time of activation only; additional
fees will apply to upgrade after installation. no more than two dual-tuner receivers per account are permitted
(including no more than one viP 622 receiver), or a total of four single-tuner receivers per account if no dual-
tuner receivers are chosen. any unreturned equipment fees will automatically be charged to the customer’s
DiSh network account or the customer’s credit or debit card provided to DiSh network. Social Security
numbers are used to obtain credit scores and will not be released to third parties except for verification
and collection purposes or if required by governmental authorities. Customer authorizes DiSh network to
investigate creditworthiness. Customer further authorizes DiSh network to report any payment defaults to
credit reporting agencies. Customer acknowledges and agrees that DiSh network is not extending credit
and that the unreturned equipment fees are not interest, a credit service fee or a finance charge. DiSh
network shall determine eligibility for this offer in its sole and absolute discretion. Programming and other
services provided are subject to the terms and conditions of the promotional agreement and Residential
Customer agreement, available at www.dishnetwork.com or upon request. there is a $5.00 Change
of Service Fee for each programming change except a $10.00 Change of Service Fee for each adult
programming change. each of Customer’s receivers must be continuously connected to Customer’s same
land-based phone line. the $5.00 per month dual-tuner receiver additional outlet programming access fee(s)
will be waived monthly for each such receiver DiSh network’s equipment confirms is continuously connected
to Customer’s same land-based phone line. DiSh network’s confirmation process shall be the sole method
utilized to determine if Customer’s monthly additional outlet programming access fee(s) will be waived. a
$5.98 per month DiSh network DvR Service fee will be charged for each DiSh Player-DvR receiver. a
customer who has one or more hD-capable receivers but doesn’t subscribe to qualifying hD programming,
including DishhD Bronze, DishhD Silver, DishhD gold, latino hD Bronze, latino hD Silver and latino
hD gold, will be charged a $6.00 per month hD access fee. the hD access fee will not be charged if
the hD-functionality has been disabled on any hD-capable receiver(s). Standard warranty includes no-cost
repair/replacement of manufacturer defects during the first 90 days. after the first 90 days, a $14.95 shipping
charge applies to warranty equipment replacement by mail, and a $99 in-home warranty trip service charge
applies. See complete warranty information at www.dishnetwork.com for full terms and conditions. eSPn and
eSPn2 programming subject to change and blackout restrictions, and is licensed separately for residential
and commercial use. Some games telecast locally may also be included in eSPn packages. FoX Sports
networks programming subject to blackout restrictions and licensed for residential use only. Regional sports
networks not available in all areas. local channels by satellite are only available to customers who reside in
the specified local Designated market area (Dma). Channels may vary by market. local channels may require
an additional dish antenna or SuperDiSh antenna from DiSh network, installed free of any charges with
subscription to local channels at time of initial installation. Cities subject to change without notice. Distant
networks packages by satellite are only available for private home viewing and in limited areas to homes that
are outside a grade a or B designated area or with the approval of local affiliates. limit of two distant cities
per eligible customer. if customer qualifies for PBS national Feed, it will be included in the Distant networks
package price at no additional charge. See the DiSh network Digital home advantage Customer agreement
for complete details. all service marks and trademarks belong to their respective owners. ©2006, echoStar
Satellite l.l.C. all rights reserved.
 
That right there is enough to give anybody a headache and make them shy away from signing up for service. There has got to be a much simpler way of stating that above without having all of that garbage to go through.
 
I just found it funny that the disclosures took up an entire page of the brochure. :)

Thats a lot of fine print, much easier to read here then on the real brochure.
 
Scott Greczkowski said:
The Line I like is:

No more then two dual tuner receivers per account are permitted (including no more then one ViP622 receiver)

That'll make people with multiple HDTV's real happy.
 
They should allow 4 622s. Honestly. Why the F not? That's assinine, what if people buy the receivers?
 
"A customer who subscribes to qualifying programming and submits a
redemption form and copy of a bill with DISH Network services within 60 days of activation will receive a $10.00 credit each month for up to 10 consecutive months."

What's that part all about? How many people have read the fine print and know about it? Sometimes it DOES pay to read the fine print! :D
 
This is for the leasing. They will only lease you 4 tuners and only 1 622 at a time. You can still purchase 6 boxes and each of them can have 2 tuners. You could go out and buy 6 of the 622s if you wanted to really fork over the $$.
 
When did Dish start offering distants outside of NY & LA again ?
With the exception of Boston not being included, isn't this the distants group they used to have before they started doing SD LiLs?

DISTANT NETWORKS
ABC · CBS · NBC · FOX · PBS $5.99/mo.
Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, New York per city
 
Dish contract

Imagine those bastards wanting there equipment back if you cancel you service, they sure have a lot of nerve. Even though they installed the equipment "free" and gave me the equipment free, if I cancel you mean I have to give it back! WOW! Get a life!:tux:
 
Is it possible in the future that a 211 will be able to access recorded content on a 622 over IP? That could solve the need for multiple HD-DVRs in many cases.

(Disclaimer: I fully realize that Dish has promised features on other receivers in the past only to never follow through with the appropriate firmware/software updates.)

CDH.
 
Stargazer said:
That right there is enough to give anybody a headache and make them shy away from signing up for service. There has got to be a much simpler way of stating that above without having all of that garbage to go through.


Yep, subscribe to cable.....

Is it me, or is just watching TV getting a bit complicated????
 

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