ALL VOOM TO GO MPEG4 AUGUST 15th

Congratulations in your promotion.:)


Thanks - gonna do my best to reduce the rheotoric and increase fair discussion and thought.

I think the stuff going on in general is great for customers of all providers really. It's nearly time for them ALL to PUT UP or SHUT UP.

What we have today, or what we had last year is of NO ISSUE now really - we need D*, E* and cable to ALL STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
 
Six. Channel 66 in the DC area does this. 6 SD feeds, not too bad. Generally old shows like Andy Griffin, shopping stuff, and dollar collecting for jesus.
 
Thanks - gonna do my best to reduce the rheotoric and increase fair discussion and thought.

I think the stuff going on in general is great for customers of all providers really. It's nearly time for them ALL to PUT UP or SHUT UP.

What we have today, or what we had last year is of NO ISSUE now really - we need D*, E* and cable to ALL STEP UP TO THE PLATE.

It is good for all, definitely.

Glad to hear they wont stick people with commitments either, should make them happy.
 
The people who have a bunch of HD channels for 13 cents and no basic SD package, have profited and benefited from a loophole for many months.

Now that E* is removing the loophole, they are whinng ??

Up until 2007, HD has been an early adopter situation. Now, E* has to begin the changeover to providing an ever increasing number of HD channels. Both Discovery and HBO (both of which have many channels) are involved in changing all their programming to HD.

So, E* has to change HD to MPEG4, and they are providing MPEG4 boxes for those who still don't have them.

But, the capability to subscribe to a large package of HD channels without having SD channels was a temporary loophole.

In the year 2000, every Internet Retailer had all sorts of discount coupons. I never made a purchase at Amazon.com or Buy.com without using at least a $10 coupon. Nowadays, any coupon is hard to find.

Many people continue to happily use Windows 98 for their limited PC use - but Microsoft has discontinued support for Windows 98, and many applications will no longer provide new version for Windows 98.

It's also hard to find parts for horse-drawn carriages...
 
"...It's also hard to find parts for horse-drawn carriages..."

Just contact your local Amish. :p
 
Now that E* is removing the loophole, they are whinng ??

Up until 2007, HD has been an early adopter situation.

I don't see people whining quite frankly. Taking an opposing view doesn't make someone a whiner - in fact parts of BOTH sides of this argument (and most of the others around here) have real MERIT and should be discussed freely IMO.

As far as the early adopter situation - I have been looking back at all of the press releases by E* - I don't see ANY mention of early adopter - I do see many that 'brag' about their leadership and their HD offering. That to me is NOT being an early adopter- they talk about being the 'leader'.
 
Up until 2007, HD has been an early adopter situation. Now, E* has to begin the changeover to providing an ever increasing number of HD channels. Both Discovery and HBO (both of which have many channels) are involved in changing all their programming to HD.

Whoever owns the History Channel collective looks like they are prepping for HD as well. Almost everything on the History channels is framed 16:9.

Cheers,
 
Never committ

For your first point - you DO generally have to re-committ when you get new equipment - but like I am saying, that is USUALLY the customers choice and decision to upgrade, or based upon an old IRD that breaks down. It is not generally because a provider takes 1 piece of its offering and puts it on a different platform while leaving the original platform in place for the other programming also on it - meaning that there is nothing wrong with the old receiver and it does NOT NEED to be replaced. I see nothing wrong with them making this change, but I think the upgrade should NOT have committment attached in a case like this. They made this decision for customer retention purposes only IMO, not to benefit the customer.

As to the second - I agree that there will be a total migration to MPEG4. It makes sense, and it will happen - both with E* and D*.


1) My montra - always pay up front and own.. Buy online from quality dealers like Dishstore or Solid Signal. no lease - its yours. If you quit Dish, you can e-bay the stuff and still come out ahead of leasing after a few months compared to an 18 month committment.

2) never never never never sign up for any method for Dish to pull money from your finances (EFT, CC Autopay....). Too many AOL like horror disconnect stories there. If you don't like paying the bill each month then set up an automatic monthly *push* internet banking payment from your bank account. I do. I have 100 percent control and can adjust amounts monthly if needed.

When Broadband Internet TV comes available and gives me the same content, I'll drop dish like a dead rat, pull the eyesores off my roof and not have any obligation.
 
When I first saw this thread title: ALL VOOM TO GO MPEG4 AUGUST 15th, I guess my wishful thinking caused me to believe it said: ALL VOOM TO GO AUGUST 15th.

VOOM is worthless crap. After you have had HDTV for a few years, as I have, you no longer care to watch crap just because it is in HD. I'm only interested in a handful of channels to be in HD besides my local network affiliates, which I watch from an uncompressed OTA digital signal. I'm not much interested in paying $10 a month more for an additional channel or two that I might watch. When push comes to shoving the original HDPak into MPEG4 and jacking up my monthly bill by $15 net, I will either just drop Dish HD or totally drop Dish. I don't intend to let Charlie add to his billions with my fixed income nickels.

End of rant!
 
Sorry I Don't Understand

I have a leased 942 and have the $10 HD pack + $5 Voom Pack

Will I have a Commitment?
...
Free HD receiver upgrade – like for like
• VOOM customers should be offered a like for like ViP receiver for all active MPEG-2 HD receivers
• through the DISH’n It Up leased promotion
Customer must agree to an 18-month commitment to basic programming.
The customer must swap their leased and purchased MPEG-2 HD receivers for a leased ViP receive
to be eligible for this offer
• Offer free leased ViP622 if customer has 921 or 942
...

or Not

There is no commitment in this deal, it is a like for like trade.
 
Any Clarification for those already with newer HD service?

I don't see any clarification of deals for those of us who previously upgraded, but still have some older HD receivers.

I for example had two 921's, and was able to get them replaced last year with two ViP622's. But I also have a 6000 that the wouldn't replace last year because it would but me at 5 leased tuners.

Will they replace additional receivers? Allow us to go over 4 leased tuners? Do it for Nothing, all the deals until now counted a hd upgrade incentive which I never was eligible for to bring the cost to essentially free.
 
I don't see any clarification of deals for those of us who previously upgraded, but still have some older HD receivers.

I for example had two 921's, and was able to get them replaced last year with two ViP622's. But I also have a 6000 that the wouldn't replace last year because it would but me at 5 leased tuners.

Will they replace additional receivers? Allow us to go over 4 leased tuners? Do it for Nothing, all the deals until now counted a hd upgrade incentive which I never was eligible for to bring the cost to essentially free.

I just called to swap my 921 for another 622, they told me sense I had "upgraded within the past 12 months under "Dishin it up", that I would not be eligible for this exchange. You may end up in the same boat. Anyone know whether this is in fact true or just more misinformation from Dish...??:confused:
 

Need to Extend Satellite Cable.

Getting a VIP 722!

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