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Actually, I see the networks steadily eroding the value of the network programming to the affiliates. The content is generally available on the web as soon as it is broadcast on the west coast. Popular programs are increasingly available on the secondary networks (usa, bravo, soapnet, family, etc) a day after being on network. More and more quality shows are being premiered on the networks cable only feeds as well (i.e. Monk, Burn Notice, etc)

All you have proven is the networks themselves are trying to move away from this affilliates model, step by step, which I also believe will happen over time. But that has little to do with the exclusive rights your local affilliates have over your market.

:confused: Where is the constitutional issue here? States' rights? I just don't see any constitutional precedent that protects such a regional monopoly. Yes, there are laws and FCC rulings that protect the affiliates, but laws and rules can be changed by congress through simple legislation. Show me where the founding fathers foresaw broadcast exclusivity ;)

The right to private property without it being taken away without permission. In this case I believe it is the copyright law. Broadcast exclusivity happens all the time.

Yeah, but they are a big deal to the politicians that make these laws.

The law they make must stands up to constitutional challenge. If the Congress pass a new law to allow the distant signals be legally received by everyone, it will be struck down by the Court in no time.

Remember we have three branches of government, not one.
 
All you have proven is the networks themselves are trying to move away from this affilliates model, step by step, which I also believe will happen over time. But that has little to do with the exclusive rights your local affilliates have over your market.

The right to private property without it being taken away without permission. In this case I believe it is the copyright law. Broadcast exclusivity happens all the time.
Yep, that was my point. The rights the locals have are covered under contract law and not constitutional law.

This is proven over and over when a certain station loses its right to broadcast a certain network, to have it granted to another station by the network. A good example of this is the KRON and NBC issue we were discussinjg in the Young Broadcasting thread. KRON didn't want to play by the rules set by NBC and thus lost its rebroadcast rights for San Francisco.

The networks could eliminate eliminate broadcast exclusivity in a heartbeat if they chose, simply by not renewing these contracts, or renewing them on a non-exclusive basis. Yes, the NAB would be upset and you would hear a giant stink, but that is a civil matter, not legislative.
The law they make must stands up to constitutional challenge. If the Congress pass a new law to allow the distant signals be legally received by everyone, it will be struck down by the Court in no time.

Remember we have three branches of government, not one.
I know that. I just don't follow the giant leap of logic you make in defining this as a constitutional issue. Broadcast exclusivity isn't even a federal statute. The only statute I know of is the SHVIA which specifically allows the satellite providers to serve unserved households above and beyond the contracts and also to carry local stations if they follow the CONTRACT terms granted to the affiliates. SHVIA basically defines statutaory limitations to the contracts.
 
Yep, that was my point. The rights the locals have are covered under contract law and not constitutional law.

All laws must be constitutional.

This is proven over and over when a certain station loses its right to broadcast a certain network, to have it granted to another station by the network. A good example of this is the KRON and NBC issue we were discussinjg in the Young Broadcasting thread. KRON didn't want to play by the rules set by NBC and thus lost its rebroadcast rights for San Francisco.

Yet folks in SF still cannot receive the distant signals. What was the point again?

The networks could eliminate eliminate broadcast exclusivity in a heartbeat if they chose, simply by not renewing these contracts, or renewing them on a non-exclusive basis. Yes, the NAB would be upset and you would hear a giant stink, but that is a civil matter, not legislative.

But the networks are not doing it, they still embrace the current business model. What then becomes a legal or legislative issue is if a satelilte company violates such exclusive rights.

I know that. I just don't follow the giant leap of logic you make in defining this as a constitutional issue. Broadcast exclusivity isn't even a federal statute. The only statute I know of is the SHVIA which specifically allows the satellite providers to serve unserved households above and beyond the contracts and also to carry local stations if they follow the CONTRACT terms granted to the affiliates. SHVIA basically defines statutaory limitations to the contracts.

Only because NAB agreed to it. A law can be in place even if it may not pass a legal challenge, if no one is there to challenge it. But when a law is challenged, it is always challenged on constitutional ground, though in reality a specific statute may be the basis for such challenge, but all laws must be constitutional if challenged, otherwise the law will be struck down.

The current network/affilliate business model is embraced by the Copyright Law. The Congress cannot establish a new law to invalidate such business arrangement unless the new law can survive NAB's legal challenge.

It is a legal issue more so than a political issue, if you refuse to accept it, you will just keep whining about it and never get it your way. It is popular to point fingers at the politicians, and blame it all on our system, if that makes people feel better, so be it, just remember you still cannot get the distant signals if the networks and the affilliates do not want to give them to you that way.

They own the content, and have the right to decide how you may receive their content. No one is forcing you to even receive such content, some people don't watch TV, they don't have such issue then.
 
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Actually you can. If you are in a white area, legally you can get your locals from Dish and distants from AAD.

Actually you could do the following:

AAD (ATL & SanFran)
DirecTV (NY & LA if you qualified or grandfathered)
Dish Network ("move" to a conus city, Denver for example)
OTA or Cable (your actual locals)

Not even considering the North of the border options some do.
 
Actually you could do the following:

AAD (ATL & SanFran)
DirecTV (NY & LA if you qualified or grandfathered)
Dish Network ("move" to a conus city, Denver for example)
OTA or Cable (your actual locals)

Not even considering the North of the border options some do.

Of course as an individual, there are many options, some of the above are not legal.

The same is not true for a large company like E*. They must follow the rules else what happened to E* can happen again.

I personally think E* should be allowed to provide distant signals again, it is only good for the consumers, as long as E* strictly follows the rules this time. The problem was FOX was affilliated with DirecTV in the past and still is I think. It had always been FOX that was at the front of the legal battle to shut E* down, for obvious reason.

The last time it was FOX to argue to the court E* was in contempt of the injunction by allowing AAD to take over the distants accounts for E*, luckily the court denied FOX's motion, citing there was nothing wrong to have E* work with AAD to continue to provide the distant signals. Had FOX been successful, we wouldn't even be talking about this subject today.

Another example how things may be settled in the court, on legal ground, not on political ground.
 
I doubt that AAD will even do hd . They keep saying they will but the deadline for hd keeps moving further and further foward every time they pass the old deadline. Would be nice to have it though because just about anyone can qualify for AAD with the right address . They are separate from DISH and do not share addresses etc. They only care about the receiver numbers on the account. It would be perfect for those in the country that don't have hd locals or all their locals in hd. I 'm sure that they will charge more for them though than the sd channels.
 

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