AL CENTRAL



Morneau made it as a reserve, but I think HE deserved to be the starting 1B.

I certainly wouldn't have argued if Cabrera got the nod over Youk, as they have very similar stats:

Cabrera- .324/16/47

Youkilis- .306/14/47

Cabrera's average is higher and has a couple more homers than Youk. Maybe Maddon considered Youk being a Gold Glove 1B?
 
doesnr matter when fans can vote as many times as they want.
how many tigers 1st basemen/catchers going to all star game?

we can argue about this allday but lets agree to disagree
i feel twins are superior team in central, and feel tigers are well see in a few months
keep your cool when tigers not in 1st within 2 weeks and the twins are.

Fan vote is what got your guys in the game. Pitchers and reserves aren't selected by the fans. If we're not in first in 2 weeks it won't matter, you're only here when the Twins are playing the Tiger's anyhow. So I won't see you for a while.
 
Should be 1 Tiger 1B going if not for the NY Boston ballot stuffing campain like every other year.

I'll take Cabrera over Tex any day of the week.
Brandon Inge should be there too.

Just goes to show, if you hit HR's you get attention, shouldn't be that way, but it is.

Granderson makes the All Star game, because of his high HR numbers .... personally, I wish he would QUITE trying to hit HR's and get back to the Granderson that could hit .320 instead.



I'm with you on this one. His OB percentage isn't all it could be. I liked the all 20's guy better.
 
Fan vote is what got your guys in the game. Pitchers and reserves aren't selected by the fans. If we're not in first in 2 weeks it won't matter, you're only here when the Twins are playing the Tiger's anyhow. So I won't see you for a while.
your wrong on all accounts. I may however not follow this thread every single game, as hockey is and always will be more important to me. I just feel this al central thread is dominateded by you and your tigers as well as a few idians fans. Havent seen too many sox fans, no royals fans and i havent seen anyone hype the twins.
The al central encompasses more than tigers and indians!
if im not welcome in this thread to bad just say so!
Fans vote twins in, little early tobe drinking dont you think? Fans vote jeter and other tards like that in, never a twin and other similar teams(ie small market teams)

well since morneau and nathan reserves guess fans didnt vote them.
I highly doubt all fans voting for cather voted for mauer, since he missed 1st month of season and hi avrage hasstedil been dropping over last 3 weeks.
I voted for no one ever and doubt i will ever vote.
 
your wrong on all accounts. I may however not follow this thread every single game, as hockey is and always will be more important to me. I just feel this al central thread is dominateded by you and your tigers as well as a few idians fans. Havent seen too many sox fans, no royals fans and i havent seen anyone hype the twins.
The al central encompasses more than tigers and indians!
if im not welcome in this thread to bad just say so!

Fans vote twins in, little early tobe drinking dont you think? Fans vote jeter and other tards like that in, never a twin and other similar teams(ie small market teams)

well since morneau and nathan reserves guess fans didnt vote them.
I highly doubt all fans voting for cather voted for mauer, since he missed 1st month of season and hi avrage hasstedil been dropping over last 3 weeks.
I voted for no one ever and doubt i will ever vote.

C'mon now Stoney! This thread is open to everybody. Many of the posts here are from fans of teams that don't even play in this division. If it's dominated by Tiger and Indian fans, it's because of instead of just lurking, we write. Your comments are always welcome. I've started a "Tiger's Thread" every year, but this year me and
Jimbo decided to open to everyone. Got something to say? Then post it.

As for drinking this "early", well my posts are pretty readable, Can't quite say the same for yours.:D Personally, I couldn't care less what time anybody chooses to imbibe with the beverage of their choice.:cool:
 
i post in english its readable. yes i dont use all my puncuations or smileys, but i never was an A student. Anyways you'll see me post before long before the the twins goto detroit or the tigers coming back here. i choose to post at those times cause thats when all you tiger fans are on the board. Anyways with how close our division is its setting up to be one heck of a race
 
i post in english its readable. yes i dont use all my puncuations or smileys, but i never was an A student. Anyways you'll see me post before long before the the twins goto detroit or the tigers coming back here. i choose to post at those times cause thats when all you tiger fans are on the board. Anyways with how close our division is its setting up to be one heck of a race



We agree on that. I have respect for all the teams in our division, and I hate every team outside of Detroit equally, (well except for Cleveland.:D) Your Twins have been a thorn in my side since we became competitive again in '06. We can't win in your ballpark, and Chicago has had our number also. It's shaping up to be a three team race for now, and I'm sure the spot on top of the division will change hands a few times before October. That will keep us all watching baseball.

When does your new stadium open? Will it be this season? Post some pictures!
 
When does your new stadium open? Will it be this season? Post some pictures!
i suppose next year, it could open in early september this year if they a far enough ahead. I myself havent even picked my new seats. I bought in 4 years ago under cheap seats promo, mantain tixs for 4 years and you will get oppportunity to pick new seats at stadium. Giving each a customer number thn when number up they pick. Well it seems everyone who bought these cheap seats promo got jobbed. Cheap seat promo holders will pick seats in early august/september, had i know that i wouldnt have wasted my money for the last 4 years i thought maybe id have a good shot at getting decent seats in new stadium but i guess not, time will tell. The twins started there seat selection back in early may if i recall correctly.
 
Morneau made it as a reserve, but I think HE deserved to be the starting 1B.

I certainly wouldn't have argued if Cabrera got the nod over Youk, as they have very similar stats:

Cabrera- .324/16/47

Youkilis- .306/14/47

Cabrera's average is higher and has a couple more homers than Youk. Maybe Maddon considered Youk being a Gold Glove 1B?

Cabrera would also be gold glove caliber in a few years, but there are so many other 1B with big stats, I don't know if Migel will ever get there.
Thats OK, it may work to the Tigers advantage to give him 3 days off.
 
And Rodney does it again!!!! Great move too bringing your closer in with the game beong 3-3, I never understood that..Especially considering Rodney already struggles to close real closing opportunities!!!!
 
And Rodney does it again!!!! Great move too bringing your closer in with the game beong 3-3, I never understood that..Especially considering Rodney already struggles to close real closing opportunities!!!!

Roy Holliday could be had for the right package ...
How about including Rodney in the package.

Can you imagine Holliday, Verlander, Jackson and Porcello ?
 
Just when it looked like we might drop 2 out of 3 to the Royals.....

Grienke on the mound against a AAA callup' Luke French....surely we would lose this one, right?
French throws a great game, the Tiger's use "small ball" early and pull out a 3-1 win! Nice job guys, getting to Grienke early, because he was dominate after the first two innings.
 
Tiger's mid term grades

We're a game or two past the half way mark, so let me share a few thoughts.

Pitching: Overall grade: B+

Justin Verlander Grade: A
He has become the stud I thought he would be this season. Leads the league in K's. Another no-hitter is on the horizon, the way he is throwing this year. Potential Cy Young season. All Star selection.

Edwin Jackson Grade: A
The steal of the off season. Matt Joyce is currently in the minors, and this kid is killing the opposition for Detroit. Should have at least 4 more wins. Look back to a post I made a few days ago to see why he doesn't. All Star selection

Armando Galarraga Grade: C
Started in April right where he left off last season. Tanked in May, went 11 straight starts without a win. Has pitched well in his last few starts, seems to be returning to form. Which is good because one can NEVER have enough pitching. Look for his grade to go up in the second half.

Rick Porcello Grade: B
What poise this kid has. Nothing shakes him. Has done a lot better than anybody had a right to expect. Look for this grade to slip in the second half, as he hits the "wall". To be 20 yrs. old and so talented.....8 wins in the first half? Unbelievable!

Dontrelle Willis Grade: F
Look for the "D" Train to be rode out of town on a rail. The Tiger's will take one more look at some point this season, before cutting their losses. It's too bad, he could have helped us a lot.

Nathan Robertson Grade: INC.
If it weren't for the surgery on his arm, I would have graded him a D. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Don't know if he'll be back this season.

Bobby Seay Grade: B+
Has done a great job. Leyland has no trust in this guy against RH batters. Why?

Joel Zumaya Grade: C
I wanted to go lower here, but I can't give anybody who can throw 105 mph a grade lower than C. His arm is obviously healthy, now he needs to find the plate again, please!

Brandon Lyon Grade: C
If this were early May, the grade would have been "trade him the hell out of here", but he has come back to form since. This grade will rise in second half, or the
Tigers will be in trouble.

Zach Minor Grade: B
I still don't understand why he isn't in the starting rotation. Always pitches better in the rotation than from the bullpen, although this season is making a lie of that statement.

Todd Jones AKA Fernando Rodney Grade: A
This grade will no doubt piss off some of you, but let me give you the numbers:
18 of 18 in save situations. 2 losses in 38 appearances. I know his ERA is high, but so what? This guy is paid to come in and not lose the game. Something he has done 36 of 38 games he has pitched. Pitches better in save situations where is ERA is around 1.00. In non-save situations his ERA is over 7.00. Again, I stress, when he enters the game, we win!

Outfield Overall grade: C

Curtis Granderson Grade: A
This grade feels high to me, but his peers made him an All Star, so who am I to argue with the experts. Outstanding power numbers, but average is about 50 pts. lower than it should be. I'd rather see him hitting doubles and triples again. Still one of the best defensive fielders I've ever seen. The over the fence grab about a month back was spectacular.

Marcus Thames
Grade: B-
Still can't hit for average, but his power makes up for that. Let's see how the second half unfolds for him, since he missed quite a bit of the first half.

Ryan Raburn, Clete Thomas, and the rest of the AAA call-ups Grade: C+
They've done what has been needed. They hit like AAA players tend to do - streaky.
all have shown good to great defensive skills.

Magglio Ordonez Grade: D
What happened to this guy? I'm looking for him to be traded, or gone before next season. $35M for the next 2 seasons is too much money for an average singles hitter. Better find his power stroke, or he's gone. Too bad, I really like this guy. The Tigers really need his bat, and I for one, hope he finds his stroke. Will platoon with Clete Thomas in the second half.

Josh Anderson Grade: B
He added speed to the line up, allowing us to play "small ball". Speed Kills.

Infield Overall grade: A

Brandon Inge Grade: A
8 errors, but he still the best glove in the AL. His errors are those of aggression, and I'll take those. Hittiing for power, leads the team in HR's and RBI's. Hopefully this afternoon, we will find out that he earned the All Star spot he so richly deserves.

Adam Everett, Ramon Santiago Grade: A
They were leading the league in RBI's for the SS position, don't know if it's still true. Who cares anyhow? The left side of the infield is one of the reason why we are in first place, and these two field the position as well as anybody in the AL right now. Any hitting we get is icing on the cake.

Placido Polanco
Grade: B
His defense keeps his grade at the B level. Where did this guy's hitting stroke go? Hitting about .50 below where he should be.

Miguel Cabrera Grade: A
If Granderson, Polanco, and Maggs had been hitting in front of him, how many RBI's would this guy had? I say at least 20 more. He has become an outstanding glove, gets to balls I never think he's going to reach. MVP candidate if the top of the order comes back to life, and the Tiger's stay in contention. Amazing power. Would have been an All Star if not for what I just stated above.

Gerald Laird Grade: A
Some of you may call this grade high, but this guy may be the best defensive catcher in the AL this season. Leads the league in throwing out runners. Great base runner, never makes a mistake on the pathes. Knows when to take the extra base. Wasn't brought here to hit, so when he does, it's a bonus.

Defense was the priority in the infield this season, and is a major improvement over last season.

Coaching Grade: B+
I don't agree with everything Leyland does. Who does? Would it kill him to leave a "cruising" pitcher in past his pitch limit? And they used to call Sparky Anderson "Captain Hook". Sparky had nothing over Leyland in this regard. Plays "small ball" very well now that he has the pieces. Last night was a great example of that. Still the right guy to manage this club

The new pitching coach is a worthwhile improvement over the last guy. The hitting coach may need a new "message". This one ain't working.

GM Grade: A
Dombrowski made defense and pitching the name of the game, and it has worked. Everett and Laird were great defensive additions. Jackson was the steal of last winter. I'm starting to see what he saw in Lyons now. Great drafting throught he last few seasons. Gave Leyland the pieces to win. It's up to the players to pick it up the pace hitting wise.

Outlook
Could make the playoffs. Need to find more consistency at the plate. A healthy Carlos Guillen would help that, as well as Granderson, Polanco and Magg's all finding their strokes. If the pitching continues as it has, and Gallaraga keeps pitching as he has the last 4 outings, I can see us still in first October 4th.

That's the way I see it. I tried to be impartial, but I'm still a fan. If i missed somebody you want a grade for, just speak up, and I'll grade them. I skipped some because of space considerations, or they haven't played enough to make an impression
Feel free to disagree with my grades, but tell me why.
 
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