Got the 811 back in Feb of 04 that was a going on.Really wanted to watch the game in hd well dish said sorry try using a ota to grab the signal.Well my area it's impossible to grab any over the air signals at all.Told dish i was considering going back to cable cause my cable company is offering a decent deal for a hd pvr with no upfront costs to me.Also looked at direct tv hd setup i'll have to spend a little money for direct tv but they claim i would be able to get all the major networks in hd due to the new laws and my location.Told the dish csr this was told from dish that i could upgrade to the 921 for almost $600.00.I was like you gotta be kinding me.I see no new hd channels on the horizon plus when dish goes to mpeg4 later this year the ird probably will be useless.Told the dish csr well my one year commitment is up with dish so i don't have to stay with dish anymore.The csr actually had the nerve to say if u think u can do better some where else then please do so....To top it all off then she asked if i would like to take dish up on there offer for a new 921 receiver for $549.00