922 forgetting stored sats?

[Shawn95GT]

Is there a fixed number of sats you can store?

I went to tune to speed channel today and I noticed X4 was gone. So is G4 for that matter! I do have two kids but I doubt they'd be able to navigate the menus, enter the password, and delete the stored sat.

Is this a quirk or a sign my battery is going?

I have 24 sats stored right now.

 

[Kb Cool]

My 920 did that (lost programmed sats) after a power outage. My kid unplugged it
and then plugged it back in real quick. Did you lose your guide too along with the lost sats? If so that would suggest a power outage.

Edited to add: But if the power outage occured while the dish was parked at G1 then I guess you would still have your guide because the receiver would automatically download it again.

 

[iammike]

I'm not aware of any limit on the number of satellites. I've got 23 programmed in right now, and I did have my receiver unplugged briefly a couple times over the weekend without issue.

 

[raydio]

Oh no...it's the V-Box syndrome!

 

[Shawn95GT]

Oh no...it's the V-Box syndrome!

Hehe - not quite. It isn't forgetting where it's at, the sat just isn't in the menu any more.

I didn't lose the guide. I didn't lose power that I know of.

All that really did change is that I saved some sat locations as per some backhaul reports around the new year. Watching the ball drop in NY live was pretty cool .

Anyone with more than 24 sats stored on a 922?

When I have some time I'll re-store X4 & G4 and see if any others drop off.

Shawn

 

[photoman76]

Check your TDT number. If it is 1920 then you have maxed out and will need to do a master reset. No fun. Hit Options 6, 0, 5 and right arrow until Diagnostic G screen. Look at the center of the top line. If it says 1920 then satellites will disappear until you do a master reset. Have you been to Anik F1 or F2 ku lately (StarChoice)? This will cause the TDT to max out.

 

[tdti1]

Hehe - not quite. It isn't forgetting where it's at, the sat just isn't in the menu any more.

I didn't lose the guide. I didn't lose power that I know of.

All that really did change is that I saved some sat locations as per some backhaul reports around the new year. Watching the ball drop in NY live was pretty cool .

Anyone with more than 24 sats stored on a 922?

When I have some time I'll re-store X4 & G4 and see if any others drop off.

Shawn

Sounds like tdt over flow, somebody may have programmed in a Star Choice satellite, not sure if we warned you never ever go to a Star Choice bird, anyway you will sadly need to do a master reset options 6-7-7-8 and never ever go to a Star Choice satellite, best to do the reset on G1 so G1 will always be at 5000 in you count.

Oh and there is no limit on the birds you can program, I am pretty sure I am using them all, if not 90% of them in the list

 

[tdti1]

Check your TDT number. If it is 1720 then you have maxed out and will need to do a master reset. No fun. Hit Options 6, 0, 5 and right arrow until Diagnostic G screen. Look at the center of the top line. If it says 1720 then satellites will disappear until you do a master reset. Have you been to Anik F1 or F2 ku lately (StarChoice)? This will cause the TDT to max out.

I think you mean 1920

 

[Shawn95GT]

Sounds like tdt over flow, somebody may have programmed in a Star Choice satellite, not sure if we warned you never ever go to a Star Choice bird, anyway you will sadly need to do a master reset options 6-7-7-8 and never ever go to a Star Choice satellite, best to do the reset on G1 so G1 will always be at 5000 in you count.
Oh and there is no limit on the birds you can program, I am pretty sure I am using them all, if not 90% of them in the list

Hehe - so long as you don't program F1-E2.

I bet this is what happened. I was trying to lock some DC channels that are in the clear on SatMex 5 (116.8). I'm sure I went as far East as E2 (111.1) in my search. I started at G0 and worked my way East.

I'll check the TDT count.

The Master Reset process doesn't sound too bad. I think it'll be good to re-center on a proper '5000' count anyways. I'll document the current known sat locations / counts. I'll figure the offset once G1 is set to 5000. Piece of cake .

Shawn

 

[Shawn95GT]

On diag G the number I see is 1750.

The TDT section shows 8 coulmns of 'ffff'.

Does this sound like Master Reset Time? My guess is yes.

Shawn

 

[photoman76]

Sorry, you are right it is 1920. 1750 is ok. No reset is necessary. It must be some other problem.

 

[iammike]

Sounds like tdt over flow, somebody may have programmed in a Star Choice satellite, not sure if we warned you never ever go to a Star Choice bird, anyway you will sadly need to do a master reset options 6-7-7-8 and never ever go to a Star Choice satellite, best to do the reset on G1 so G1 will always be at 5000 in you count.

That sounds like a real nasty problem. There's a lot of good FTA on those sats. Not programming them in, isn't an option for me. I haven't had any issues so far, is there anything that can be done to mitigate the problem.

 

[tdti1]

That sounds like a real nasty problem. There's a lot of good FTA on those sats. Not programming them in, isn't an option for me. I haven't had any issues so far, is there anything that can be done to mitigate the problem.

You can program the C-band F1 or use a generic like CG, CE for F2, with C-band there is not a problem and so you can program the C-band on the 4dtv and get some analog wild feeds and on the free to air box you can program the c/ku and get both bands, not a problem at all

Just do not program A1 or any Ku-band generics like the KF and others at the bottom.

The reason this happends is because the 4dtv has the USA maps, and when you go to a Star Choice satellite the 4dtv will also download the Canadian maps and flood the memory, we are hoping that NPS and SRL work to get some Canadian programs for us along with some of the networks in HD off the Star Choice birds, if this happends they will need to pay Motorola to do a fix so the 4dtv 920 and 922 can go to the Canadian satellites without a problem, all we need to do is email NPS and SRL and demand Canadian content, or the USA networks that are on thoes birds and we can hope for a fix

The 905 does not have this problem because it does not have all the analog channels and feeds in its memory, so it does not over flow.

 

[hammerdown]

You can program the C-band F1 or use a generic like CG, CE for F2...
Just do not program A1 or any Ku-band generics like the KF and others at the bottom.
The reason this happends is because the 4dtv has the USA maps, and when you go to a Star Choice satellite the 4dtv will also download the Canadian maps and flood the memory....
The 905 does not have this problem because it does not have all the analog channels and feeds in its memory, so it does not over flow.

I do not have anything to input on this problem because I am very new to the BUD club. But, I really think the type of information in the quote above needs to be put into the FAQ, along with any other pitfalls/quirks built-in to the various 4Dtv boxes. I can already tell someone like me, just starting out, may be in for multiple master resets from things just like this

Hammer

 

[tdti1]

I do not have anything to input on this problem because I am very new to the BUD club. But, I really think the type of information in the quote above needs to be put into the FAQ, along with any other pitfalls/quirks built-in to the various 4Dtv boxes. I can already tell someone like me, just starting out, may be in for multiple master resets from things just like this
Hammer

True I agree, funny thing is I think Motorola puts A1 in the maps, so anyone unknowingly will most likely program that bird in, and have problems.

Yes I am sure Motorola can fix this problem, though unless somebody else pays the bill nothing will be done...

 

[iammike]

You can program the C-band F1 or use a generic like CG, CE for F2, with C-band there is not a problem and so you can program the C-band on the 4dtv and get some analog wild feeds and on the free to air box you can program the c/ku and get both bands, not a problem at all
Just do not program A1 or any Ku-band generics like the KF and others at the bottom.
The reason this happends is because the 4dtv has the USA maps, and when you go to a Star Choice satellite the 4dtv will also download the Canadian maps and flood the memory, we are hoping that NPS and SRL work to get some Canadian programs for us along with some of the networks in HD off the Star Choice birds, if this happends they will need to pay Motorola to do a fix so the 4dtv 920 and 922 can go to the Canadian satellites without a problem, all we need to do is email NPS and SRL and demand Canadian content, or the USA networks that are on thoes birds and we can hope for a fix
The 905 does not have this problem because it does not have all the analog channels and feeds in its memory, so it does not over flow.

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize you were referring to KU.

 

[Shawn95GT]

I re-saved G4 / X4 and it seemed to take.

Wierd behavior! It almost had to be some kind of a stuid owner trick. I'll keep an eye on it. I have 25 sats stored now.

 

[tdti1]

I re-saved G4 / X4 and it seemed to take.

Wierd behavior! It almost had to be some kind of a stuid owner trick. I'll keep an eye on it. I have 25 sats stored now.

Did you look at your TDT count? if it is passed 1920 the problems will return and others will follow.

 

[Shawn95GT]

Did you look at your TDT count? if it is passed 1920 the problems will return and others will follow.

It was at 1750. I checked again just now and it's still at 1750.

When I have time I think I'm going to do a master reset on the unit just to get G1 centered on 5000.

Shawn

 

[tdti1]

It was at 1750. I checked again just now and it's still at 1750.
When I have time I think I'm going to do a master reset on the unit just to get G1 centered on 5000.
Shawn

1750 is fine, not sure why the sat disappear on you? the only time I had that problem was when I intentionally went to see what was on the Star Choice birds, a few days after as expected I had problems, birds vanishing off my list, though my count was at 1920 a MR fixed it up nice.