I don't think a re-point is necessary due to the close proximity of the birds. The current thinking is that the current sat will be moved out of the slot to serve as a backup somewhere.
61.5 HD question
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Quite correct, severeal sats have been moved over the years with the majority of subscribers not knowing anything about it. Repoint has never been necessary.
If the launch is successful, how long will it be before AMC-14 is up and running? Will it mean more HDs?
Charles, slip over to the pub and read the thread on "eastern arc". Very exciting possibilities. 61.5 is definitely not going away.
That rumor of 61.5 going away has been floating around for years. I suspect it came to life out of an installer that pushed D* over E*. It has never been true, and certainly isn't true today.
If you think "installers should know better than some guy on a forum" you might want to inquire about how many installers know next to nothing about HD, or HDMI cables- or push component cable setups and know nothing of constraint tokens. Some simply don't even install HD at all. I suspect those guys will get onboard in the next year or two or leave the field.
If you think "installers should know better than some guy on a forum" you might want to inquire about how many installers know next to nothing about HD, or HDMI cables- or push component cable setups and know nothing of constraint tokens. Some simply don't even install HD at all. I suspect those guys will get onboard in the next year or two or leave the field.
I believe the real issue has to do with the goverment mandate to use only 1 dish. It seems everyone is being programed to use only the Dish 1000 for that reason. I am on my third attempt to get an install for 61.5 since I can't get 129. Tomorrow will tell the tale, this time a local retailer will be coming and I don't forsee any main problems. He also went the old route of we don't know how long 61.5 will be up, but did agree to put up the 61.5, if thats what it takes Wish I would have been able to do a self install, this would have been long over and forgotten.
There is NO government mandate to use one dish.
All your SD locals must be on one dish, but everything else can be anywhere.
The government has not gotten into the business of telling sat providers where to put programming YET! (Except for SD locals and public service).
61.5 is there to stay. Dish is putting MORE programming there and has acquired ~6 more transponders from Sky Angel on 61.5.
All your SD locals must be on one dish, but everything else can be anywhere.
The government has not gotten into the business of telling sat providers where to put programming YET! (Except for SD locals and public service).
61.5 is there to stay. Dish is putting MORE programming there and has acquired ~6 more transponders from Sky Angel on 61.5.
Thanks for the clarification, It has been mentioned to me by a couple of different Dish people about a FCC requirement to get away from using more that 1 dish. All I know is from my experience lately someone is discouraging the installation of more than 1 dish.
The practice of putting lesser-known locals on a separate wing dish is now a forbidden practice. Locals are not spread across two separate dishes anymore.
Although in the Northeast Dish does put their HD locals on 61.5 while the rest are on either 110 or 119.
The SD locals were all that were available at the time. So the law only states that customers must be able to get locals with just one dish. Even though they can upgrade and get HDs on a different dish, the minimum requirement is still met by consolidating the SD locals. I imagine HD locals are a different game although the FCC may mandate that all of them be on one dish as well. It isn't mandatory that locals be on the same dish as core programming, only that all locals be available without requiring more than one dish just for getting all locals. Basically, you can't put ABC, CBS, Fox on one dish and then CW on a different dish.
Actually its more than just ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and CW. At one time, before this ruling, many markets had programming on multiple dishes. For example NYC had most of its SD locals including ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, UPN, WB and PBS(WNET) on the dish 500 (110/119), but had many others must carry locals on 61.5. They were forced to move them so that they could be seen using a single dish. Since then they added (or moved) all the HD (ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC) stations to 61.5.
Similar conditions occured in other markets.
I hear & believe whats being said, but as a new Dish customer, it has taken quite some doing to get Dish 500s installed for 110/119 & 61.5, I was finally only able to do so by using a local retailer, and then he had to put down install as Dish 1000.2 (I have been a long time Direct customer)
When my installers show up, I tell them emphatically what I want and they do it. I have never had one argue with me yet. If they do, I would ask him to install it my way or leave. I have two Dish 500s. One on 110 and 119 and the other on 61.5.
The first time around, In so many words thats what I did, and they left after some time of trying to convince me I had to use the 1000, they said they didn't have a Dish 500 on the truck.
Now its beginning to look like I may have made a mistake in going to Dish. What up with no guide information on OTA local?
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