50" DLP crosses $1000 threshold

[charper1]

BUT, even with the the lower hour usage of 3000hrs for FPTV lamps (which I too have exceed as the others have), along with the FPTV startup cost for a top quality 80" PLUS, pure HD image, the TOTAL 5 - 7 years cost is still cheaper. Even if the cost was equal why settle for 42" - 63" or less for the same money ?

This was asked many times before; PLEASE show me anything that equals the size and quality for the TOTAL costs. I am not worried about $300 lamps ever 3000 - 6000 hours necessarily, if you can show me something in the other formats that can compete in quality and size at the same 5 - 7 years use. FPTV users just worry about lamps as needed, it seems all the other formats are paying a huge (or larger) up-front costs for less image; IMHO and still are not perfect either.

Take a top rated portable projector that can do 96" - 106" @ $2000 (mine included 2 lamps/ so 2 years worth at least) with a new lamp every 2555 hrs @ $300 (7hr x 365 days = 1 per year) x 5 years: $1500 (assumes they NEVER get cheaper with age) = $3500 total over 7 years of use. I have gone just over 1yr with no new lamp needed yet and no degraded images or briteness (sp?). Lets even throw out the extra free lamp, and add another just for giggles (as a shelf spare) thats an additional $00 for a total of $4100 for a 7 year period.

Will you even keep a FPTV, flatpanel or RPTV display 7 years these days; likely not; so the FPTV gets even cheaper than that $4110 listed total; subtract $300 per 1yr.

So..... First find me a flatpanel/RPTV that big; 70" or more in the $2500 - $3500 range for this to be a REAL comparison (LOL!)

 

[navychop]

I wonder if they will ever be able to use LEDs in FPTVs. I also wonder if FPTVs will be a significant force in the market in the future.

 

[Stargazer]

I am going to just hold out for the laser projectors. Another thing I am concerned about is the low light setting you have to have a projection in. For the size it is a good deal even in the longrun but if you do not need that big of a size then that might be a different story. It depends on the situation.

 

[charper1]

I wonder if they will ever be able to use LEDs in FPTVs. I also wonder if FPTVs will be a significant force in the market in the future.

Is that just an ideal dream or are they really developing that? I have never heard it, but these days nothing would surprise me.

 

[charper1]

I am going to just hold out for the laser projectors. Another thing I am concerned about is the low light setting you have to have a projection in. For the size it is a good deal even in the longrun but if you do not need that big of a size then that might be a different story. It depends on the situation.

These myths were also busted in the other thread. It just seems that you just have no real interest, or a predetermined negative perception, in FPTV which is fine and your choice, but why perpetuate the denigrating myths of something I am assuming you do not use or have any experience with? What makes you think the even newer laser tech will be better, cheaper, larger, etc?

Most people's only experience with FPTV's are one that were setup 110% on the cheap, not correctly selected & setup for the environment they are used in. The other main problem is people see industrial or office presentation devices and assume that is the same as home theater rated gear, and its not; and it too is very poorly setup for speed, not quality.

As far as the FPTV size; they are all adjustable NOT fixed. So they can shrink and grow as needed to fit. Many from 50" up to 200". All for the SAME COST. No need to buy another display. They are also portable; can come down in less than 5 mins to travel to dad's house (without any big screen) to view the big game; and then back home and up in the same 5mins. All at no additional costs or anything special. They also can move outside for "drive-in like" setting. (ask dfergie about it) Try that with all your others with no additional costs!.

The problem isn't the tech, it is the rampant dis/mis-information. Starting to sound like Elvis sightings or Roswell when people mention FPTV these days. What are people so afraid of?

 

[navychop]

Is that just an ideal dream or are they really developing that? I have never heard it, but these days nothing would surprise me.

Oh, just an idle comment.

 

[charper1]

I was wondering how that tech got under the radar. You best patent your idea fast! LOL

 

[charper1]

Stargazer, I just wanted to add I hope you don't think I am busting your chops or "twisting any arms" to buy a FPTV, just pointing out some facts & stating some info is all.

 

[Stargazer]

I was ready to buy one last summer but decided not to at the last minute. Someone (I forget who) from this site suggested one and it came with a free second bulb and it was only around $1,600. Some things that I love about FPTV is the large screen size with great picture quality, small space that it takes up, and the portability of it as I may want to display a huge screen outside in the summer for get togethers or take it to a get away house or take it other places with me as it would be awesome to show off. Thinking I had to have a low light setting (and I thought someone on the phone I asked about this said it had to be a low light setting) is what I think changed my mind. Maybe someone on the phone did not know what they were talking about or something and I was really anxious on getting the projector. I had plans for this large room I was going to fix up for a theatre and all.

 

[charper1]

If you are really into the info/research, you really do not need to live in a cave or whatever close. In fact, my den is very well lit with ambient light; that I can also easily and inexpensively control.

Yes, if the wrong projector is selected for your environment it will look like crap; regardless of cost; especially if one is purchased by cheapest cost alone.

Projectors offer less markup & profitability to chain brick and mortar retailers; so why would they push them? They would rather lead you to a highly-functional, higher profitability item, and it doesn't hurt that flat is the BUZZ. They also do not want to give up any floor space for quality demos.

You are dead on with "I had plans for this large room I was going to fix up for a theater and all."

As NOTING else can provide a TRUE theater.

SG: what is your area? Maybe there is someone here, or someone reputable we can direct you to, to get some helpful, trusted info. I doubt your room has massive uncontrollable lighting issues. At least a real pro (not a box store) can visit you and will likely have a light meter and show you the real ropes.

 

[Miner]

Fellas,

I didn't mean to start a FP / RP holy war. A sub $1000 RP DLP is a new pricepoint. I don't believe it matters which way we choose to watch our HD. This TV lowers what we will pay for our next HDTV. If we have this discussion next Christmas and it is 50" plasmas, it will be another milestone pricepoint.
In the words of Rodney King, (slightly paraphrased) "Can't we all just get along and watch HD?"

Miner

 

[Jhon69]

So what's your point? If the bulbs burnt out in exactly 3000 hrs it might be a big deal. Like I said, I have well over 3000 hrs and my tv is at least 3.5 years old. When it burns out I spend 250 bucks and I have a new tv, big deal. You can try and bash RPTV all you want but I have not regretted getting mine.

Sorry it took so long to reply.If your happy with that more power to you cause I know that I am happy with my RPTV cause I know the CRT's will last 10 to 14 years.

 

[skidog]

You mean you hope it lasts 10-14 years! I also have a crt hd tv in my bedroom. I got a good deal on it, it's one of the Samsung Slim fit tv's, it has the slight bowing in the center bottom of the screen which I usually only notice when in the guide.

 

[boston area dtv]

Someone call homeland security! We have a hijacked thread run wild.

All the guy did was say, hey guys theres a 50" DLP for under a $1,000 and the next 20 posts were about projectors.

 

[Stargazer]

In 10-14 years the television technology will have changed so much (its changing just as fast or faster than computers now) that you will want to buy a new one before then.

The room that I plan on having the projectors in will have no windows so no problem there. The other room I was thinking about putting in (the living room) was going to have a few windows on one side of the room. I was even going to try to make it to where I could view with the projection in the other room from the living room downstairs and possibly a room upstairs as I am customizing an apartment that I am fixing up for myself.

 

[navychop]

In 10-14 years the television technology will have changed so much that you will want to buy a new one before then.

Yep. I bought mine about a year ago, figuring on around 5 years before I bought another one. Every year the "next big thing" changes. Now that SED is dead and OLED is making such progress, maybe TVs will be dirt cheap again in 5 or 10 years.

 

[chadzx11]

What are these non-detailed excuses about wives not allowing a FPTV? They are a better value; quality, size per dollar. They even take up less space overall. I an very interested in the excuses. You tell you wife you are getting a bigger, equal to better display for less money and they are always all over that.

My wife was with me on an install in California for a guy that had a full theater with projector (way back in 99). We've both wanted one since then, but realistically don't have an area appropriate to watch it (too many windows). I'm still watching the Sony Wega 36" CRT that I paid $1500 for in 2000. I ain't buying nothing else until that one breaks and I can't get parts for it anymore. I love that big heavy bastard!

 

[Digital Dude]

In 10-14 years the television technology will have changed so much (its changing just as fast or faster than computers now) that you will want to buy a new one before then.

The room that I plan on having the projectors in will have no windows so no problem there. The other room I was thinking about putting in (the living room) was going to have a few windows on one side of the room. I was even going to try to make it to where I could view with the projection in the other room from the living room downstairs and possibly a room upstairs as I am customizing an apartment that I am fixing up for myself.

Last night for the National Embarassment game we had a party. In the theater room we had a table lamp, a swag lamp, and a floor lamp on in addition to the rope lighting and everyone was stunned with the PQ on the Mits HD1000u.

You no longer need a room to be totally dark to enjoy FP. A few times I even had the overhead fluorescent lights on and nobody complained.

 

[Jhon69]

In 10-14 years the television technology will have changed so much (its changing just as fast or faster than computers now) that you will want to buy a new one before then.

The room that I plan on having the projectors in will have no windows so no problem there. The other room I was thinking about putting in (the living room) was going to have a few windows on one side of the room. I was even going to try to make it to where I could view with the projection in the other room from the living room downstairs and possibly a room upstairs as I am customizing an apartment that I am fixing up for myself.

Don't know how we will adjust by then.Because the one thing I think you won't be able to find is what we like a 50"4:3 CRT RPTV.We just do not like Widescreen I guess it's relates to that saying"Can't teach an old dog new tricks!".But I would rather pay to have 3 new CRT's put in than buy something else.We have space restrictions and that's what we like it keeps the home cozy.
So in closing more power to whatever anyone decides.I just can't see replacing light bulbs or dedicating a whole room to a projector but that's just my opinion.
Also it's almost for sure that we don't have the money that alot of people have.If
we did maybe? Nah! Just kidding!.:

 

[Digital Dude]

I think it's funny how people existed and actually were able to configure their homes for those really deep CRT's!

I miss the great PQ of crt's,