2011-12 NFL Playoffs

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And since Brady didn't play his best game than Flaco should of stepped up and won the game, elite QBs do.

But he put his team in a position to win. If Evans holds on to that ball, Flacco is taking his team to Indy.
 
It's just another case of when a team wins or losses the qb gets too much credit or the blame. I just can't slam the guy today even if I wanted to. But who ever wants to that's ok too. Nothing wrong with that if that's how you see it.
 
meStevo said:
That's the problem with fan evaluations of quarterbacks it seems, they're either elite or irrelevant.

Because EVERYONE thinks you need a Brady, Brees, Rogers or Rothlesberger to be successful in this league.
 
By the way the games today have been great. A the end I'm glad the pats game wasn't a blow out. Entertaining until the end.
 
Because EVERYONE thinks you need a Brady, Brees, Rogers or Rothlesberger to be successful in this league.
You don't need elite Qb's to have success when the team is good but it sure helps :D
Remember to throw the mannings in there too :p
 
Oopppss...lately, more Eli than Peyton.

True. Peyton's body of work as a whole is better but Eli is making a case for himself as mr clutch. And if he wins today and goes and wins against the pats then you could make the case that little brother is better in the post season. He already has a better post season record in wins vs losses.
 
The Pats defense has been much maligned for most of the season (and rightfully so, BTW), but they came up HUGE in two spots in this game.

1. The Ravens went on a long drive in the 3rd quarter, and scored a TD to go ahead for the first time 17-16. On the ensuing KO, Danny Woodhead fumbles and gives the ball right back to the Ravens at the Pats 30. The Pats D could have very easily folded here, but instead they manned up and held the Ravens to a FG.

2. Following the Spikes INT, on the FIRST PLAY FROM SCRIMMAGE the Pats INEXPLICABLY :mad: threw the ball deep to
a guy that caught ONE ball all year (YES, I was PO'd beyond belief following this play :rant:) and the ball was picked off in the end zone and returned to the Ravens 30. Once again, the Pats D manned up after that turnover.
 
Man how about the way Vernon Davis has stepped it up in the playoffs!
 
BillD1984 said:
The Pats defense has been much maligned for most of the season (and rightfully so, BTW), but they came up HUGE in two spots in this game.

1. The Ravens went on a long drive in the 3rd quarter, and scored a TD to go ahead for the first time 17-16. On the ensuing KO, Danny Woodhead fumbles and gives the ball right back to the Ravens at the Pats 30. The Pats D could have very easily folded here, but instead they manned up and held the Ravens to a FG.

2. Following the Spikes INT, on the FIRST PLAY FROM SCRIMMAGE the Pats INEXPLICABLY :mad: threw the ball deep to
a guy that caught ONE ball all year (YES, I was PO'd beyond belief following this play :rant:) and the ball was picked off in the end zone and returned to the Ravens 30. Once again, the Pats D manned up after that turnover.

And for this reason, you cannot make a big deal where teams are ranked. The Pats bent..but did not break.

But I still hate them... ;)
 
And even when they bent, they sometimes shouldn't have. Anyone notice the facemask on one of the Ravens TDs along the sideline? The WR not only grabbed the facemask, but held on and drug the defender into the end zone with him. Officials were too busy looking at feet. It's as bad as it sounds and you'll agree if you ever see a picture of it... it's a complete fist, clenched over the facemask as he jumps into the endzone, dragging the defender with him (basically locking in the stiffarm and keeping it there).

I know the whole 'there's holding every play' and im sure you can find penalties on most plays, but holy cow.

Edit: Wasn't too hard to find, heh:

nfl_u_ravets_576.jpg
 
True. Peyton's body of work as a whole is better but Eli is making a case for himself as mr clutch. And if he wins today and goes and wins against the pats then you could make the case that little brother is better in the post season. He already has a better post season record in wins vs losses.

Eli isn't consistent enough, yet.
 
The Pats defense has been much maligned for most of the season (and rightfully so, BTW), but they came up HUGE in two spots in this game.

1. The Ravens went on a long drive in the 3rd quarter, and scored a TD to go ahead for the first time 17-16. On the ensuing KO, Danny Woodhead fumbles and gives the ball right back to the Ravens at the Pats 30. The Pats D could have very easily folded here, but instead they manned up and held the Ravens to a FG.

2. Following the Spikes INT, on the FIRST PLAY FROM SCRIMMAGE the Pats INEXPLICABLY :mad: threw the ball deep to
a guy that caught ONE ball all year (YES, I was PO'd beyond belief following this play :rant:) and the ball was picked off in the end zone and returned to the Ravens 30. Once again, the Pats D manned up after that turnover.

Yes, the Pats D* came to play today !!!!

Congrats Bill, heres hoping they go on to win it all !
 
The giants keep making things harder than what it already is. Dumb penalties.
 
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Finally, the fight I WANTED: Cotto vs. Mayweather!

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