Hey guys I thought I would go back in the time machine and bring up what was at the time a very hot button issue with BUD owners at that time... It was on this date in 1986 that HBO and Cinemax went full time with VCII scrambling... I remember Keith lamonica and Chuck Dawson having the phone lines pretty much wiped out on that day... Once HBO was gone at that time you had Showtime/TMC and SelecTV who were the three movie channels that were left for free then there was The Movie Network out of Canada that became free for awhile on the Anik satellites... Back then there was just an E/W feed of HBO and Cinemax and I remember the price being $19.95 a month for those two channels... Hard to believe but it really has been that long... CC