2/8/2010 9:46pm - Uplink Activity Report - 34 changes

[DigiDish Uplink Report]

SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 2/8/2010 9:46pm - 34 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 02/08/2010 01:21A - 02/08/2010 09:46P

Channel Additions:
4135 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (NA)
4135 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (NA)
4204 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam (NA)
4204 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (NA)
5308 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (NA)
5308 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (NA)
5316 - TMP13 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 18 ConUS beam (NA)
5316 - TMP13 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (NA)
9430 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam (NA)
9430 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (NA)
9447 - TMP13 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 18 ConUS beam (NA)
9447 - TMP13 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (NA)
9450 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (NA)
9450 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (NA)
9512 - TMP58 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (NA)
9512 - TMP58 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (NA)

Channel Removals:
4135 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam
4135 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam
4204 - TMP64 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam
4204 - TMP64 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam
5308 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam
5308 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam
5316 - TMP58 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam
5316 - TMP58 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam
9430 - TMP64 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam
9430 - TMP64 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam
9447 - TMP58 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam
9447 - TMP58 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam
9450 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam
9450 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam
9512 - TMP13 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 18 ConUS beam
9512 - TMP13 (NA) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam

Channel Renames:
9645(99) - TAXES - EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam renamed to ABRVA (A)
9645(99) - TAXES - EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam renamed to ABRVA (A)

Channels in the system: 6710
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

 

[digiblur]

Looks like the new HD is only going to be available to pure WA and EA customers. Folks with the pseduo WA/EA setup of 110/119/61.5 are not going to get some of these channels. Of course this could change at the time of launch.... but I doubt it.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I got word that the following HD channels are launching this week. All channels will be on 129. TRUTV hd
FOX SOCCER CHANNEL HD
Retro Hd
BBC America hd
E! Entertainment Television HD
Indie Hd
Sportsman hd
Hallmark HD
Showtime HD (west)

Only BBC America will be on 61.5 all other new HD channels will be on 72.5.

 

[digiblur]

Basically folks with 110/119 w/ 61.5 wing dishes will need to upgrade to 61/72/77(1000.4) or 110/119/129 (1000.2) setups to get these channels.

Why did they do this?

1. E-3 has had more failures in the past few months. They don't want to put up more HD then have to take it down. They have filed to move E-6 to E-3 incase of another failure at 61.5.

2. They have a bunch of room at 72.7 with the new Nimiq5 bird with more transponders on the way as DirecTV vacates them.

3. 129 has the room to support the channels for WA customers.

4. Why not just put it on 119? They had room before! Correct. They have room at 119, but this room is needed for the E-14 shuffle coming up when E-14 is in orbit. Plus E-14 actually requires more transponders for efficient beam utilization. This will come more into play during the 8PSK WA conversion.

So basically the E-3 life and E-14 shuffle probably forced their hand at this, and they figure most of the customers have LOS to either WA or EA.

 

[tigerfan33]

What is Indie hd?

Thanks for the info. Scott.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

What I find interesting about the news tonight is that this is "Phase 1" of new HD.

 

[kstuart]

What is Indie hd?

Thanks for the info. Scott.

An Encore movie channel that is likely to go into Platinum HD package.

 

[tigerfan33]

How many phases are we talking about here?

Please tell me that ESPNU hd is in ANY phase.

 

[tigerfan33]

An Encore movie channel that is likely to go into Platinum HD package.

Cool. I will get that one.

 

[kstuart]

BTW, in case some are wondering what this uplink changes - the answer is that they rebalanced the transponders to have more equal bitrate per transponder.

For example, HD sports takes more bandwidth than HD talking heads...

 

[digiblur]

What I find interesting about the news tonight is that this is "Phase 1" of new HD.

You sure that isn't part of the 77 to 72 migration?

 

[Aerc]

I'm getting 77,72, and 61.5 does this mean I'll get these? Sorry new to this sort of thing.

 

[tigerfan33]

I'm getting 77,72, and 61.5 does this mean I'll get these? Sorry new to this sort of thing.

Yes.

 

[Aerc]

Yes.

Thank you for the quick reply.

 

[YankeeFAN12072]

I live in Albany NY and have the 119 110 and 61.5 and have 2 dishes what will I need to get the new channels?? What is the cost of the equipment?

 

[julesism]

I got word that the following HD channels are launching this week. All channels will be on 129. TRUTV hd
FOX SOCCER CHANNEL HD
Retro Hd
BBC America hd
E! Entertainment Television HD
Indie Hd
Sportsman hd
Hallmark HD
Showtime HD (west)

Only BBC America will be on 61.5 all other new HD channels will be on 72.5.

FSC-HD! wowwahweewah! very excite! high-five!

 

[kstuart]

FSC-HD! wowwahweewah! very excite! high-five!

If we are lucky, then it will be available minutes before Aston Villa vs Manchester United on Wednesday afternoon.

 

[kstuart]

Which brings up a question - how long after a new channel is "made available", does it become active in "Dish Remote Access" ?

Do channels have to be added manually by Dish to that guide list ?

 

[kstuart]

I live in Albany NY and have the 119 110 and 61.5 and have 2 dishes what will I need to get the new channels?? What is the cost of the equipment?

If your 61.5 dish can be pointed at 129 (in other words, no trees or buildings in the way) then you would not need any new equipment - which also assumes that your local channels are not on 61.5 .

Otherwise, you would need a "Dish 1000.4" instead of your existing equipment.

The cost depends on whether Dish is willing to pay for new equipment for you to get the channels you are paying for. In the past, they have generally done so, but such things vary depending on which phone rep you get... which reminds me that no phone rep will be able to deal with anything in this thread until Thursday or Friday, so do not call until then.

 

[tigerfan33]

Which brings up a question - how long after a new channel is "made available", does it become active in "Dish Remote Access" ?

Do channels have to be added manually by Dish to that guide list ?

Interesting. This will be the first channels added since the Sling app.

I would think as soon as the day of and no later than the day after.