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The first of many...no word on cost or blackouts


YES Network to offer new streaming service | Everything you need to know, including how to watch Yankees games in 2023

 
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The first of many...no word on cost or blackouts


YES Network to offer new streaming service | Everything you need to know, including how to watch Yankees games in 2023

Just as I have predicted, more and more cable only services will go streaming to try and make up the per sub fees that have been lost due to people leaving their paid live tv service.

ESPN and others will soon do the same, when a company is losing billions (ESPN)due to the lost per sub fees, they have to try and make up the revenue from other areas.

I said before, these next 2 years are going to be incredible for cord cutting, if Live TV cannot get a handle on this within the next year, then it will be over.
 
Just as I have predicted, more and more cable only services will go streaming to try and make up the per sub fees that have been lost due to people leaving their paid live tv service.

ESPN and others will soon do the same, when a company is losing billions (ESPN)due to the lost per sub fees, they have to try and make up the revenue from other areas.

I said before, these next 2 years are going to be incredible for cord cutting, if Live TV cannot get a handle on this within the next year, then it will be over.
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Hah, from the guy always complaining about pointless posts in threads. These apply to you, too.
No, actually it doesn't. Repeating the same (incorrect) take 20 times per day, every day, is tiresome. We all get it. The poster thinks he is right and every single analyst of this industry is wrong. If one just hold one's breath and stomps one's feet long enough, they will have to "make up revenue" by selling him ESPN at a loss. The industry experts that understand how much ESPN, et al, have to take in to make money are wrong. They will sell it to me, they will, they will!!!!

As to actual comment on the actual subject, YES dtc will be an interesting case study, in how many subscribers (the frequent commentator says less than 400K people follow the Yankees in the entire region, funny how Yankees on cable/DBS, bad - Yankees on streaming, good - almost over night) they can get, and how much they will charge. In the longer run, it will be interesting to see if cable puts up with this. They would be smart to dump YES immediately.
 
No, actually it doesn't. Repeating the same (incorrect) take 20 times per day, every day, is tiresome. We all get it. The poster thinks he is right and every single analyst of this industry is wrong. If one just hold one's breath and stomps one's feet long enough, they will have to "make up revenue" by selling him ESPN at a loss. The industry experts that understand how much ESPN, et al, have to take in to make money are wrong. They will sell it to me, they will, they will!!!!

As to actual comment on the actual subject, YES dtc will be an interesting case study, in how many subscribers (the frequent commentator says less than 400K people follow the Yankees in the entire region, funny how Yankees on cable/DBS, bad - Yankees on streaming, good - almost over night) they can get, and how much they will charge. In the longer run, it will be interesting to see if cable puts up with this. They would be smart to dump YES immediately.

Wait, you're the guy still suggesting Sunday Ticket wont be offered a la carte after insisting it would be 50+ times, right?

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As to actual comment on the actual subject, YES dtc will be an interesting case study, in how many subscribers (the frequent commentator says less than 400K people follow the Yankees in the entire region, funny how Yankees on cable/DBS, bad
Did you not just say when we were writing about ratings and Netflix, that Netflix way did not matter unless they were done by Nielsen?

So I post a link that showed the Yankees average rating was 219,000 per game, ratings by Nielson, now they do not matter.
- Yankees on streaming, good -
Myself or anyone else here has not written that, I believe the RSNs are totally ******.

Will not get better for them as more and more leave Paid Live TV and the loss of per sub fees.
almost over night) they can get, and how much they will charge. In the longer run, it will be interesting to see if cable puts up with this. They would be smart to dump YES immediately.
I would of believed Yes already prepared for this in the last contracts signed.

And why would not cable put up with this, they already let content from channels they air be on streaming services also.
 
No, actually it doesn't. Repeating the same (incorrect) take 20 times per day, every day, is tiresome. We all get it. The poster thinks he is right and every single analyst of this industry is wrong. If one just hold one's breath and stomps one's feet long enough, they will have to "make up revenue" by selling him ESPN at a loss. The industry experts that understand how much ESPN, et al, have to take in to make money are wrong. They will sell it to me, they will, they will!!!!

As to actual comment on the actual subject, YES dtc will be an interesting case study, in how many subscribers (the frequent commentator says less than 400K people follow the Yankees in the entire region, funny how Yankees on cable/DBS, bad - Yankees on streaming, good - almost over night) they can get, and how much they will charge. In the longer run, it will be interesting to see if cable puts up with this. They would be smart to dump YES immediately.
The thing with Yankees is that around playoff time..they get huge numbers because they are always in contention..its the casual fan who gets hurt in a deal like this
 
Did you not just say when we were writing about ratings and Netflix, that Netflix way did not matter unless they were done by Nielsen?
No. Try reading. I said that Netflix, et al, almost never releases ratings. I would love to know exactly how few people actually watch most streaming shows. When they do release ratings, its reaaaaaaaaaly small for any one show.
So I post a link that showed the Yankees average rating was 219,000 per game, ratings by Nielson, now they do not matter.
So, why are you posting in a thread about YES?

Baseball on TV - bad. No one cares.

Oh, they put baseball on streaming!!!!!!! Let me repeat my incorrect take, once again.

We all get it. You have made your mind up about an industry you don't understand. You actually think the Walt Disney Company, one of the largest corporations in the world is going to sell you a service AT A LOSS. OK, fine. Congratulations.
And why would not cable put up with this, they already let content from channels they air be on streaming services also.

Umm, basic business. CONTENT and the entire channel are two different things. So, yes, the one thing you are right about is that MOST people don't care about the RSNs. And they are VERY expensive. So why should cable continue to charge its customers for a channel they don't want? Just dump YES and tell them to sign up for it on line.

Same goes for real ESPN, et al.
 
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The thing with Yankees is that around playoff time..they get huge numbers because they are always in contention..its the casual fan who gets hurt in a deal like this
Streaming hurt all consumers. With the cable bundle, the consumer is protected. Everyone pays a little for each content segment and there is a vast plethora of content to choose from. With streaming, eventually, we find that not many, maybe none at all, types of content have enough fans to pay the production costs among their tiny niche (and EVERYTHING sports or not, not spelled NFL is a niche taste) and the content simply ceased to be produced.

Anyone who doesn't understand that, both in sports and in filmed entertainment, the amount of new material that will be being made in five or ten years will be a pale shadow of what is today, doesn't understand basic economics.
 
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This would be good for me since I'm in CT. I could drop Directv and go all streaming with a much cheaper service. Of course it depends upon what the price is to stream YES.
 
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Streaming hurt all consumers. With the cable bundle, the consumer is protected. Everyone pays a little for each content segment and there is a vast plethora of content to choose from. With streaming, eventually, we find that not many, maybe none at all, types of content have enough fans to pay the production costs among their tiny niche (and EVERYTHING sports or not, not spelled NFL is a niche taste) and the content simply ceased to be produced.

Anyone who doesn't understand that, both in sports and in filmed entertainment, the amount of new material that will be being made in five or ten years will be a pale shadow of what is today, doesn't understand basic economics.
Do you remember the recording industry before streaming?..it was very robust but now most bands make more money off of touring
 
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Streaming hurt all consumers. With the cable bundle, the consumer is protected. Everyone pays a little for each content segment and there is a vast plethora of content to choose from. With streaming, eventually, we find that not many, maybe none at all, types of content have enough fans to pay the production costs among their tiny niche (and EVERYTHING sports or not, not spelled NFL is a niche taste) and the content simply ceased to be produced.

Anyone who doesn't understand that, both in sports and in filmed entertainment, the amount of new material that will be being made in five or ten years will be a pale shadow of what is today, doesn't understand basic economics.
That is one way to look at it, but, as a consumer, here is how I look at it. Traditional Linear (cable/satellite) content delivery resulted in the following things that I didn't care too much for:

1. Large price increases every year.
2. New channels constantly added which had little content of value and really only existed to pad the channel owners' revenue.
3. Declining picture quality as more and more channels are squeezed into the same bandwidth.
4. Most of the really good content (HBO, Showtime, Starz, etc.) cost extra.
5. More and more ads per programming block
6. Other things I can't even remember

So, it is no surprise when I started to really resent how that business operated. When on-demand and live streaming became available, it was a no-brainer to flee to it as fast as humanly possible
 
The thing with Yankees is that around playoff time..they get huge numbers because they are always in contention..its the casual fan who gets hurt in a deal like this
Which has nothing to do with the icky ratings for the reg season on the RSN.

No playoffs on the RSN.
 
$25 a month or $240 for the year
sign up before 4/30 for $20 month or $200 year

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That seems high. I'm not in the viewing area so I'm not eligible. However I can get a single team MLB.TV package for $130.
Its not "high" at all. Actually, they are not charging enough. Baseball is a regional sport. Your local team in you local area is worth $25 to $50/month. The local team matter to the MAJORITY of local baseball fans. The vast majority. The mlb.tv package is sold at a low cost because the production costs were already covered by the local fans of those teams, and the value of other people's teams really isn't all that much. Displaced fans, baseball junkies, and gamblers. That is all that want this.

Baseball, which has mismanaged its media relationships for many decades, made a fundamental mistake with mlb.tv. In the cable/DBS bundle system, getting the out-of-market package was an add on. The consumer had first paid for the basic package, which included paying for the local team. MLBEI was what it should be, extra and over and above paying for the local team.

Now we have people saying "why should I pay $25 for one team when I can watch other place's teams, all of them, for $15?". They ask a valid question. A question that MLB should have never allowed to happen.


 

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