WHAT's new on Charlie Chat 3/14?
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Not much to recap. Charlie doesn't want to add ESPN U as not many people have requested it and he doesn't want to have to raise our bill yet he doesn't mind raising it for channels no one cars to watch.
hometheaterman said:
What channels would that be? All the channels being added lately are a la carte or even separate packages.
If ESPN-U, Yes or CSTV would allow themselves to be sold a la carte where the channel owners set the fee get every single nickel gathered while Dish absorbs the cost of uplink, administration and lost oportunity (which is the deal offered to YES and rejected) these channels would be available faster than you can say Jack Sprat.
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Tony
ESPN-U and CSTV have both agreed to be on a sport tier only (they are sold that way on DirecTv). ESPN-U is reportedly asking 10 cents per Multi-Sport sub, and that is apparently more than Charlie is willing to pay. As for YES, they want to be treated like every other RSN on Dish Network (part of AT60+ and above), which seems reasonable to me, but not to Charlie or multiple people here. 
Translation:
CSTV, nor YES will accept the offer of setting their own price and getting every nickel raised with no cost incurred! Right?
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Tony
CSTV, nor YES will accept the offer of setting their own price and getting every nickel raised with no cost incurred! Right?
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Tony
I haven't heard / read anything about CSTV, so I can't speculate what deals were offerred. As for YES, they supposedly did reject an offer for a-la-carte. But so has every other RSN on Dish. While a few RSNs may still be offerred as a premium service on a few cable systems around the country, the RSNs have learned that they make the most money by being part of the basic programming package. YES wants to be part of the basic programming package (AT60+ or AT120) like MSG and FSNY, Charlie says a-la-carte or nothing. Which is why continue to be the only major provider without YES Network.TNGTony said:
Yes, you always make more money when you force the cable/satellite companies to pay for 100% of the subscribers when in reality the channel has a much narrower viewer base. Why is it that the folks at YES claim that they would have to set a $10 a month a la carte rate on the channel and they would "only" charge Dish about $2 a subscriber if it were part of a package? Could it be that only 20% of the total viewer base is even interested in the channel? Hmmmmm....
Yes every other RSN is in a package right now. So what? The Yankees were on an existing RSN and they were available on every outlet. It was the Yankees' decision to give that up and form their own channel and try to force themselves onto channel line ups charging as much or more than the existing channel. ALL the outlets balked at first! Remember? After a short while some caved to the very boisterous 20% of subscribers. For a while there were only two. Even threatened with local moronic law makers threatening passing a law to force Cablevision to carry the channel, they still resisted for some time. And now Dish stands alone in resisting blackmail.
The road to a la carte has to start some where and there has to be a reason to start the fight. This is as good a reason as there is. Still remember it is YES's choice not to be offered at all on Dish. Not Dish's. No matter how it's spun, the door was opened and the offer as fair as can be in any reasonable person's mind. "You set the price. You keep all the money raised. We absorb the uplink, administrative, marketing and lost opportunity cost." YES decided they want to make MORE money that they would make standing on their own two feet. SCREW THAT!
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Tony <---wishes Dish could do that with all RSNs!
Yes every other RSN is in a package right now. So what? The Yankees were on an existing RSN and they were available on every outlet. It was the Yankees' decision to give that up and form their own channel and try to force themselves onto channel line ups charging as much or more than the existing channel. ALL the outlets balked at first! Remember? After a short while some caved to the very boisterous 20% of subscribers. For a while there were only two. Even threatened with local moronic law makers threatening passing a law to force Cablevision to carry the channel, they still resisted for some time. And now Dish stands alone in resisting blackmail.
The road to a la carte has to start some where and there has to be a reason to start the fight. This is as good a reason as there is. Still remember it is YES's choice not to be offered at all on Dish. Not Dish's. No matter how it's spun, the door was opened and the offer as fair as can be in any reasonable person's mind. "You set the price. You keep all the money raised. We absorb the uplink, administrative, marketing and lost opportunity cost." YES decided they want to make MORE money that they would make standing on their own two feet. SCREW THAT!
See ya
Tony <---wishes Dish could do that with all RSNs!
