What's 1080p?

coinmaster32

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Any fulltime channels in 1080p?
Are any PPV's in 1080p?
Is BB@home 1080p?

The reason I ask is because im thinking about getting a blu-ray player, but if the BB@home titles are 1080p, I don't see a reason unless.

Is BB@home 24p?
 
Any fulltime channels in 1080p?
Are any PPV's in 1080p?
Is BB@home 1080p?

The reason I ask is because im thinking about getting a blu-ray player, but if the BB@home titles are 1080p, I don't see a reason unless.

Is BB@home 24p?
SO sorry, but "you got some learnin' to do". Yes there is some 1080p (PPV) on cable and Sat. but will never match Blu-ray because of compression. Not to mention audio.
 
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Well after two pages of really not answering your question I will. If you want it for 1080P streaming don't. If you want it for the best play back of DVD's and Blue ray disc's, yes get one. Let the definition of 1080P live on!
 
On a smaller set, say less than 32", 1080p vs 1080i/720p is nothing more than a sales gimmick. Hardly indistinguishable IMO. Do you watch a lot of DVDs or Blu-rays? An added bonus is that nearly all Blu-ray players will up-convert DVDs as will most newer DVD players.
 
I really doubt you would see any difference in PQ when using Component instead on HDMI. I have TVs in my display room hooked up with both side by side and you can't tell the difference. Now, if you were doing it with a blu-ray player there would be a difference.
 
redelephants said:
On a smaller set, say less than 32", 1080p vs 1080i/720p is nothing more than a sales gimmick. Hardly indistinguishable IMO. Do you watch a lot of DVDs or Blu-rays? An added bonus is that nearly all Blu-ray players will up-convert DVDs as will most newer DVD players.


Remember when a 32 was considered big?
 
Many discs are available in Blu-ray via the BB@H mailed to your home, but none of the channels or streaming would be 1080p. That's about it except for the few compressed selections on VOD on Dish. Sorry.

I'm showing 4 1080p movies right now on channel 1 and 501 on my Hoppers.
 
Get an Oppo BDP-103 and never look back. As others have stated, ALL HD content is compressed using h.264, AVCHD, or MPEG-4. AVCHD is just Sony's version of h.264. Satellite typically uses MPEG-4 but that is leaning towards h.264. H.264 is the king of home-made video. Blu-ray discs are typically encoded at 24Mbit/s for video and UP TO 24.5Mbit/s for audio but it is typically 8-10Mbit/s for HD Master Audio 7.1. The resolution is 1920 x 1080p. Not sure what satellite is now but last I heard it was 1440 x 1080i at probably half the bitrate of a Blu-ray. P vs. I. Progressive vs. Interlaced. BOTH have 1080 lines of data. The difference is how it is delivered. P is delivered all at once at 30 frames/second and I is delivered at 60 fields/second in an even/odd line alternation. Progressive delivery is going to look smoother with less jagged edges and motion artifacts.
 
And that's about all the 1080P Dish would usually have at one time, 4.

Component VS HDMI - No difference for PQ, but if not using HDMI if you have a newer audio receiver will lose getting the best audio from many blu-rays. Optical does not carry some of the newer better audio encoded into discs.

And as pointed out, there is virtually no difference to the human eye between 1080P, 1080I or 720P unless the screen is big enough. In fact even 480 will look the same on a smaller TV. That said, even on 55" TV at more than 7 feet viewing distance PQ will look the same between 1080P and 720P. (I'm leaving 1080I out of the equation - that brings in other considerations and some are debatable as mentioned in the post above - it's closer to 720P than 1080P, either just below or above 720P) Even the new somewhat available and very expensive 4K Tv's - on a 55" you would need to be 4' away to see the difference from 1080P. Note this is all for PQ. Better color saturation in some cases can be seen especially with blu-ray 1080P.
Nothing is widely available that matches the PQ of a good blu-ray disc on a large screen TV.
 
Now. Will I loose any PQ if I step down from HDMI and use component on my HDTV for Dish viewing?

I believe you will. Some others have not mentioned HDCP when talking about blu-rays. If the player cannot communicate w/ the TV, it will not enable 1080p because it will think it isn't HDCP compliant... you're much better off to use HDMI over component.
 

Dish 922 or 722K

Horrible flickering sound

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