VOD only came through as 1080i NOT p..Why?

[mgrey9]

I have a 722 HD DVR and ordered my first 1080p movie (mummy3..not good) with the $4.99 credit I learned about on another post, but when it check my TV it said it wasn't supported and sent the movie in 1080i. I have a new Olevia 47" that is full 1080p and I'm hooked up through HDMI..why would it not support it?

Suggestions??

I have noticed that the DVR instructions seems to only refer to 1080i output. I do NOT have the DVR hooked up using the Ethernet cable, does that matter?

 

[8bitbytes]

As you would find out in the many threads that discuss this, your TV must support 1080p/24 properly AND that information must be in the EDID information that is transmitted in the HDMI handshake.

 

[mgrey9]

Thanks for the update. I'll try and find it in threads but...what is 1080p/24 and how do I find out if my TV has it? If it does not, does that mean I won't be able to view the 1080p at all?

I have an Olevia 247TFHD LCD.

Thanks for helping the Newbie.

 

[hedbert]

I found that my DENON receiver was preventing me from seeing it in 1080p.

 

[JimK2]

Thanks for the update. I'll try and find it in threads but...what is 1080p/24 and how do I find out if my TV has it? If it does not, does that mean I won't be able to view the 1080p at all?

I have an Olevia 247TFHD LCD.

Thanks for helping the Newbie.

I think only newer 120hz refreash rate TV's can view 24 frames per second (120/5 = 24)

 

[mgrey9]

Denon receiver? Is that who makes the 722 for Dish? The model on the back of my receiver says Echostar Model DE26. I think my old dish receiver was Motorola.

 

[mgrey9]

I think only newer 120hz refreash rate TV's can view 24 frames per second (120/5 = 24)

I know my TV is only 60hz so maybe that is the problem. I don't have anything (yet) that outputs to 1080p like a Blu-ray, but do those need a 120hz TV to be viewed in 1080p? I just really want to see something in the"p" instead of "i" to see if there is really any difference. The TV states it's "p" ready, so I'd like to see it some day. :-(

Thanks for all the help.

 

[lakebum431]

I found that my DENON receiver was preventing me from seeing it in 1080p.

Which Denon receiver do you have? I have the 3808ci and 1080p works with that and my Pioneer 6020 with no problems. Did not work right in the beginning, but works now.

 

[dantheman77]

unless you are 1 foot in front of it, or have a 100" tv...can you even tell?

 

[8bitbytes]

1080p/24 is 1080p at 24 frames per second. This is how most films are shot. The newer 120Hz tvs MIGHT handle 24fps correctly, they might not. Some do the 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz and then double that to 120Hz instead of 24x5.

Even if your tv might support 24fps at 48, 72, 96, or 120Hz if your TV does not have that info in its EDID correctly, your TV will not pass the Dish testing.

There are some large threads on this subject already here in the forum.

 

[bebop]

Denon receiver? Is that who makes the 722 for Dish? The model on the back of my receiver says Echostar Model DE26. I think my old dish receiver was Motorola.

No - he's talking about an audio/video home theater stereo amplifier - not a dish network receiver.

 

[bebop]

I know my TV is only 60hz so maybe that is the problem. I don't have anything (yet) that outputs to 1080p like a Blu-ray, but do those need a 120hz TV to be viewed in 1080p? I just really want to see something in the"p" instead of "i" to see if there is really any difference. The TV states it's "p" ready, so I'd like to see it some day. :-(

Thanks for all the help.

I doubt it will work with your TV, mine is the same and it won't accept the 1080p/24 signal from the dish receiver. If you didn't know what that meant coming into the discussion, you won't recognize the difference between 1080i and 1080p.

Borrow a blu-ray player and disc from someone and test it out.

 

[mgrey9]

Thanks for all the help

I have a feeling from checking multiple forums(on my TV and Dish issues) that it's a Dish Network issue. The 722 highest output setting is 1080i, I'm assuming Dish must have "other' receivers that offer 1080p output but not this 722.

Thanks again for all the help.

 

[allargon]

I think only newer 120hz refreash rate TV's can view 24 frames per second (120/5 = 24)

Nope. Most of the displays that can properly make use of 24p refresh at 48 (many front projectors) and 72Hz (Pioneer plasmas and Nuvision DLP's). Quite a few 60Hz (and 120Hz) displays (e.g. Mitsubishi DLP's) can accept 1080p24, but will perform an internal 3:2 pulldown rather than displaying a natural number multiple of 24 fps.

Dish's detection algorithm is the main culprit. Many displays that accept 1080p24 aren't recognized by Dish's receivers as capable.

 

[Paradox-SJ]

I have a feeling from checking multiple forums(on my TV and Dish issues) that it's a Dish Network issue. The 722 highest output setting is 1080i, I'm assuming Dish must have "other' receivers that offer 1080p output but not this 722.

Thanks again for all the help.

You feeling would not be entirely correct. There are not any STB made by E* that have a 1080P setting. That said, 1080p content can still be viewed IF your TV and the STB can properly negotiate the setting and this is based on how your TV is programed.

 

[8bitbytes]

I have a feeling from checking multiple forums(on my TV and Dish issues) that it's a Dish Network issue. The 722 highest output setting is 1080i, I'm assuming Dish must have "other' receivers that offer 1080p output but not this 722.

Thanks again for all the help.

Dish provides this 1080p option through a software function that works through the receiver chipset to allow you to view 1080p24 content when the normal function on the receiver is 1080i since nobody broadcasts 1080p.

The test function is set rather strictly to make sure only those displays that can truly handle 1080p24 PROPERLY will receive the 1080p download.

The only place for error would be in your display edid passed in the HDMI handshake.

 

[bebop]

I have a feeling from checking multiple forums(on my TV and Dish issues) that it's a Dish Network issue. The 722 highest output setting is 1080i, I'm assuming Dish must have "other' receivers that offer 1080p output but not this 722.

Thanks again for all the help.

It's not a dish network issue. It is the choice they made to only allow the 1080p signal (on a VOD download) to be viewed through a connection that can handle 1080p/24hz properly. Your tv cannot do that and neither can mine - even though both TV's can handle 1080p/60hz.

The ViP722 CAN output 1080p, but not to just any TV.