Utah soccer league hiring security after ref hit

It will be interesting to follow this.

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Thoughs and prayers to the victims family.

Here are a few thoughts.

1- How much "power" can a 17 year old have to knock someone into a coma?
2- After getting his leg and ribs broken, he must have loved being a ref to continue
3- Am not a fan of courts getting involved with what happens on the playing field, but the victim died in the case. I wouldnt try him as an adult.
4- Am wondering if the victim had a pre-existing injury/non-discovered condition, as it seems unlikely dying from a 17 year old's punch.

Cheers, K
 
Thoughs and prayers to the victims family.

Here are a few thoughts.

1- How much "power" can a 17 year old have to knock someone into a coma?
The teenager, quite a bit heavier than Portillo, began arguing with the referee, then punched him in the face. Portillo seemed fine at first, then asked to be held because he felt dizzy. He sat down and started vomiting blood, triggering his friend to call an ambulance.

When police arrived around noon, the teenager was gone and Portillo was laying on the ground in the fetal position. Through translators, Portillo told emergency workers that his face and back hurt and he felt nauseous. He had no visible injuries and remained conscious. He was considered to be in fair condition when they took him to the Intermountain Medical Center.

But when Portillo arrived to the hospital, he slipped into a coma with swelling in his brain.

2- After getting his leg and ribs broken, he must have loved being a ref to continue
I officiate HS football and I don't get rich doing it. Personally, I do it to give back to the game and for the camaraderie with my fellow offiicials. When that feeling is gone, it will be time for me to hang it up.
3- Am not a fan of courts getting involved with what happens on the playing field, but the victim died in the case. I wouldnt try him as an adult.
Read the quote from #1 above. It didn't happen as part of the play on the field. Makes no difference in this case whether it happened on an athletic field or a street corner. What this young man did should make him chargeable as an adult.
4- Am wondering if the victim had a pre-existing injury/non-discovered condition, as it seems unlikely dying from a 17 year old's punch.

Cheers, K

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1435759/utah-soccer-referee-dies-being-punched-player?cc=5901
 
Thoughs and prayers to the victims family.

Here are a few thoughts.

1- How much "power" can a 17 year old have to knock someone into a coma?
2- After getting his leg and ribs broken, he must have loved being a ref to continue
3- Am not a fan of courts getting involved with what happens on the playing field, but the victim died in the case. I wouldnt try him as an adult.
4- Am wondering if the victim had a pre-existing injury/non-discovered condition, as it seems unlikely dying from a 17 year old's punch.

Cheers, K

1. My son's friend is 17 and has a scholarship to play football at UConn this fall. The kid is all muscle and could probably do a lot of damage if he punched someone while angry. I work the chain gang at some high school games and believe me these 17 year olds are bigger and stronger than they've ever been.
 
1. My son's friend is 17 and has a scholarship to play football at UConn this fall. The kid is all muscle and could probably do a lot of damage if he punched someone while angry. I work the chain gang at some high school games and believe me these 17 year olds are bigger and stronger than they've ever been.

But you cannot compare the body of a 17 year old football player and the body of a soccer play. Most of the soccer players are nowhere near as built as a football player.
 
@ Cosmo:

#1 How much is "a bit heavier" ? 17 year year olds arent physical specimens at that age. Milan Lucic's has got some serious punching power and he never knocked out anyone cold. Unfortunately am suspecting there might have been an existing condition/circumstance here and the one punch was the lightning rod.

#2 I enjoy refering basketball and baseball.. but the moment I get abused and end up with broken bones...I applaud his love for the sport.

#3 I gotta disagree with you here... IMO, there is a difference between playfields and street corners. There are a lot of plays in sports that would be felony assault if it occured anywhere else..

Cheers, K
 
1. My son's friend is 17 and has a scholarship to play football at UConn this fall. The kid is all muscle and could probably do a lot of damage if he punched someone while angry. I work the chain gang at some high school games and believe me these 17 year olds are bigger and stronger than they've ever been.

Perhaps... but as I previously mentioned, I suspect the punch was a fluke and triggered something else. Someone died which is tragic...however I wouldnt throw the book at the kid until its determined 100% that there wasnt something else in play here. It is possible as the family did state he was abused before... who really knows what previous damage was caused.

Cheers, K
 
@ Cosmo:

#1 How much is "a bit heavier" ? 17 year year olds arent physical specimens at that age. Milan Lucic's has got some serious punching power and he never knocked out anyone cold. Unfortunately am suspecting there might have been an existing condition/circumstance here and the one punch was the lightning rod.

#2 I enjoy refering basketball and baseball.. but the moment I get abused and end up with broken bones...I applaud his love for the sport.

#3 I gotta disagree with you here... IMO, there is a difference between playfields and street corners. There are a lot of plays in sports that would be felony assault if it occured anywhere else..

Cheers, K
#1 - Pre-existing condition doesn't matter. He wasn't applying for health insurance, he was officiating a youth soccer game and was assaulted.

#3 - In this case there is no difference. I could possibly agree with you in the case of a hockey fight, for example. Fights are allowed in hockey, but they are not allowed in soccer, between players, or more importantly between a player and a ref. I could also agree with you if the ref was injured as part of the action, say run over during the play. Clearly, that's not what happened here.

Honestly, the fact that you seem to dismiss what this young man did simply because it happened on an athletic field is a little disturbing....
 
#1 Agree w/ you 100%. The kid is going to do some serious time. However, how much will be determined IMO if anything pre-existing was there. Am just surprised that one punch caused a death (am assuming the kid wasnt on steroids). I wouldnt give him life w/o parole if there was already a case of brain trauma.

#3 Football, basketball, hockey, boxing, baseball... I can easilly name a dozen incidents in each sport which would have been a felony if it occured anywhere else.
 
#1 Agree w/ you 100%. The kid is going to do some serious time. However, how much will be determined IMO if anything pre-existing was there. Am just surprised that one punch caused a death (am assuming the kid wasnt on steroids). I wouldnt give him life w/o parole if there was already a case of brain trauma.

#3 Football, basketball, hockey, boxing, baseball... I can easilly name a dozen incidents in each sport which would have been a felony if it occured anywhere else.

I totally agree with you in the fact that he absolutely assulted this person. BUT, if there is no history of this kid doing anything wrong, I doubt he even does adult time in jail. But, you never know with judges and juries nowadays.
 
#1 Agree w/ you 100%. The kid is going to do some serious time. However, how much will be determined IMO if anything pre-existing was there. Am just surprised that one punch caused a death (am assuming the kid wasnt on steroids). I wouldnt give him life w/o parole if there was already a case of brain trauma.

#3 Football, basketball, hockey, boxing, baseball... I can easilly name a dozen incidents in each sport which would have been a felony if it occured anywhere else.

Boxing for sure, since that's the intent of the sport, to injure someone. How many of those dozen in the other sports involved the death or serious injury of the assault victim??
 
Football?

I don't think you read the last two words of my post that you quoted, so here they are again: assault victim.

As I said a few posts ago, if a serious injury occurs as part of normal sports action, that's clearly part of the game and wouldn't warrant any legal action. So, if a football player did the same thing and assaults and seriously injures a game official, that's OK?? Last I checked, that's against the rules and many have been arrested for this type of behavior that clearly out of bounds.

The idea that because it happened on the field of play that it somehow lessens the legal ramifications are idiotic...
 

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