Uplink Activity 6/12/08 3:00 AM EDT - Activity at 148w

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UPLINK ACTIVITY: SAMPLE TAKEN 06-12-2008 03:01:59 TO 06-12-2008 03:03:03 ET


1 DELETE(S)

DEL 5861 CSSM SD TV Tp 2 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

49 MOVE(S) (May include other changes as well.)

MOVE 472 SPORT MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AT100?
TO 472 SPORT MPEG2 SD Tp 29 EchoStar 1 148w AT100?

MOVE 533 PPV MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AT200?
TO 533 PPV MPEG2 SD Tp 9 EchoStar 1 148w AT200?

MOVE 580 INFO MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AT100? PREV FTA
TO 580 INFO MPEG2 SD Tp 9 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? PREV FTA

MOVE 582 CCTV4 MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 582 CCTV4 MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 607 PLSAT MPEG2 SD Tp 19 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL
TO 607 PLSAT MPEG2 SD Tp 27 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL

MOVE 615 RTPI MPEG2 SD Tp 19 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL
TO 615 RTPI MPEG2 SD Tp 27 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL

MOVE 620 GEOTV MPEG2 SD Tp 19 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL
TO 620 GEOTV MPEG2 SD Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL

MOVE 622 APUNJ MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL PREV
TO 622 APUNJ MPEG2 SD Tp 27 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL PREV

MOVE 623 ZGUJ MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 623 ZGUJ MPEG2 SD Tp 27 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 644 LBC MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 644 LBC MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 645 ALJAZ MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 645 ALJAZ MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 670 MBC MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 670 MBC MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 5779 INTL1 MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 5779 INTL1 MPEG2 SD Tp 1 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 5865 SPEC4 SD TV Tp 2 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 5865 SPEC4 SD TV Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 5960 TEST MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 5960 TEST MPEG2 SD Tp 9 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 5961 TEST DATA Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE
TO 5961 TEST DATA Tp 9 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE

MOVE 7950 KTWO MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 2
TO 7950 KTWO MPEG2 SD Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 2

MOVE 7951 KGWC MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 14
TO 7951 KGWC MPEG2 SD Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 14

MOVE 7952 KCWY MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 13
TO 7952 KCWY MPEG2 SD Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 13

MOVE 7953 KFNB MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 20
TO 7953 KFNB MPEG2 SD Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 20

MOVE 7956 KCWC MPEG2 SD Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 4
TO 7956 KCWC MPEG2 SD Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w AVAIL HIDE MAP 4

MOVE 9405 PNTGN MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AT100? HIDE
TO 9405 PNTGN MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? HIDE

MOVE 9406 ARTS MPEG2 SD Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w AT100? HIDE
TO 9406 ARTS MPEG2 SD Tp 25 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? HIDE

MOVE 9418 PAEC MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w AT100? HIDE
TO 9418 PAEC MPEG2 SD Tp 29 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? HIDE

MOVE 9621 BTV SD TV Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w ADULT?
TO 9621 BTV SD TV Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w ADULT?

MOVE 9622 BTV SD TV Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w ADULT?
TO 9622 BTV SD TV Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w ADULT?

MOVE 9904 D148 UNKNOWN Tp 15 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? PREV FTA
TO 9904 D148 UNKNOWN Tp 1 EchoStar 1 148w AT100? PREV FTA

MOVE 9996 ECC MPEG2 SD Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w ADULT? HIDE
TO 9996 ECC MPEG2 SD Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w ADULT? HIDE

MOVE 14025 KTXS2 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14025 KTXS2 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14234 KSYS3 EEPG Tp 10 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14234 KSYS3 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14478 KDEV2 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14478 KDEV2 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14479 KTNE1 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14479 KTNE1 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14480 KTNE2 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14480 KTNE2 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14481 KTNE3 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14481 KTNE3 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14482 KTNE5 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14482 KTNE5 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14483 KCBD3 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14483 KCBD3 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14489 KBHE1 EEPG Tp 12 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14489 KBHE1 EEPG Tp 3 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14597 KMVU2 EEPG Tp 10 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14597 KMVU2 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14643 KCWC2 EEPG Tp 14 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14643 KCWC2 EEPG Tp 13 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14707 KJCT2 EEPG Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14707 KJCT2 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14768 KCBD2 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14768 KCBD2 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14769 KTXT3 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14769 KTXT3 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14771 KOBI2 EEPG Tp 10 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14771 KOBI2 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14772 KSYS1 EEPG Tp 10 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14772 KSYS1 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14975 KTXS3 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14975 KTXS3 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 14984 KTVQ2 EEPG Tp 18 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 14984 KTVQ2 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 15029 KKCO2 EEPG Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 15029 KKCO2 EEPG Tp 21 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 15054 KJTV2 EEPG Tp 16 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 15054 KJTV2 EEPG Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

MOVE 15055 KTVL2 EEPG Tp 10 EchoStar 2 148w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 15055 KTVL2 EEPG Tp 23 EchoStar 1 148w UNAVAIL HIDE

TRANSPONDER CHANGES

DELETE Tp 2 EchoStar 2 148w ,QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

DELETE Tp 4 EchoStar 2 148w ,QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

ADD Tp 13 EchoStar 1 148w QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

DELETE Tp 15 EchoStar 1 148w ,QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

DELETE Tp 24 EchoStar 2 148w ,QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

DELETE Tp 26 EchoStar 2 148w ,QPSK SR 20000 FEC 5/6

ADD Tp 31 EchoStar 1 148w 8PSK SR 21500 FEC 2/3

50 CHANGE(S) 5061 CHANNELS IN THE SYSTEM
 
Both E-1 and E-2 are old but rumors here support calling them dieing with no real reports of failure including recent Dish/SATS financial reports.
 
Based on the channel number, I would guess that 9904 is a slate saying "Congratulations you are pointed at 148"
 
They changed a lot of MPEG4 SD to MPEG4 HD on some even transponders on E2 yesterday.

I think DISH is up to something with this slot. Perhaps they're going to mirror a bunch of HD for HI and AK.

The dish 1000.2 hits 148/129 perfectly as I've done it in trial here. A satellite at 138 would fit perfect to that dish as well. Consequently, Ciel in Canada (DISH leases 129 from them) received broadcasting consent from 138. Ciel has expressed interest in leasing out up to 50% of the capacity there.
 
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I took a look with the BLSA. Transponders 6, 17 and 31 have been turned off recently. Transponders 28, 30 and 32 have been off for a long time.
 
vegassatellite said:
They changed a lot of MPEG4 SD to MPEG4 HD on some even transponders on E2 yesterday.

I think DISH is up to something with this slot. Perhaps they're going to mirror a bunch of HD for HI and AK.

The dish 1000.2 hits 148/129 perfectly as I've done it in trial here. A satellite at 138 would fit perfect to that dish as well. Consequently, Ciel in Canada (DISH leases 129 from them) received broadcasting consent from 138. Ciel has expressed interest in leasing out up to 50% of the capacity there.
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The also added an MPEG2 SD channel to a Texas local package which is on E*2 at 148 yesterday, so my first guess - that E*2 is moving - is clearly wrong.

It would be interesting for us Westerners to see a bunch of MPEG4-HD at 148 ! :cool:

PS Did you move from Las Vegas to Phoenix (I'm guessing... ) ?
 
vegassatellite said:
They changed a lot of MPEG4 SD to MPEG4 HD on some even transponders on E2 yesterday.

I think DISH is up to something with this slot. Perhaps they're going to mirror a bunch of HD for HI and AK.

The dish 1000.2 hits 148/129 perfectly as I've done it in trial here. A satellite at 138 would fit perfect to that dish as well. Consequently, Ciel in Canada (DISH leases 129 from them) received broadcasting consent from 138. Ciel has expressed interest in leasing out up to 50% of the capacity there.
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Ciel is a long way from getting a satellite up at 138w... let them get 129w going first!
 
kstuart said:
The also added an MPEG2 SD channel to a Texas local package which is on E*2 at 148 yesterday, so my first guess - that E*2 is moving - is clearly wrong.

It would be interesting for us Westerners to see a bunch of MPEG4-HD at 148 ! :cool:

PS Did you move from Las Vegas to Phoenix (I'm guessing... ) ?
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What you are implying is that 148 W will be part of the Western Arc. That can't be because it is contrary to the "rumors".:D
 
I moved from Vegas to Georgia for a year before coming to Phoenix. Wish I was still in Georgia though, wife brought me here.

Ciel has a license to use 138. They could easily do what they did with 129 and allow DISH to park a bird there until they get one over there. If it became necessary as a matter of requirement, DISH could consolidate all uplinks on 148 to just E1 and move E2 over there until Ciel gets their own bird there. It wouldn't mean any additional transponders in the meantime, but if the Canadian equivalent of the FCC has a "use it or lose it" policy, DISH could be very helpful to Ciel in that regard.

I don't see why 148 couldn't be a part of a Western Arc. 129/138/148 can be gained with current technology. No new dishes to be engineered, just use the 1000.2. With as many apartments that you have in places like L.A., Phoenix, SF, L.V., etc, an Eastern Arc, central arc, and Western Arc would bring about line of sight to many places that didn't previously have it before.

Here's a pic of a switch test showing a 1000.2 picking up 129/148 on the same Triple LNB.

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vegassatellite said:
Ciel has a license to use 138. They could easily do what they did with 129 and allow DISH to park a bird there until they get one over there. If it became necessary as a matter of requirement, DISH could consolidate all uplinks on 148 to just E1 and move E2 over there until Ciel gets their own bird there.
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As I mentioned, Dish just moved a new channel to E*2 yesterday, and they changed transponders to MPEG4-HD, so they wouldn't bother with that if they were clearing E*2.

What seems likely is that once Ciel2 is on-line at 129, Dish would move E*5 to 138.

Yes, people complain about E*5, but it would make a fine "placeholder" satellite, just as E*4 is doing at 77W.
 
kstuart said:
As I mentioned, Dish just moved a new channel to E*2 yesterday, and they changed transponders to MPEG4-HD, so they wouldn't bother with that if they were clearing E*2.

What seems likely is that once Ciel2 is on-line at 129, Dish would move E*5 to 138.

Yes, people complain about E*5, but it would make a fine "placeholder" satellite, just as E*4 is doing at 77W.
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I think they would have to send someone up there to push that thing over there. I'm not sure it could make it on its own.

There's no need to move E2 over to 138 since there would be no gain in transponders. However, if Ciel was under a "use it or lose it" requirement, Dish could move E2 there and operate from that location. They could put E5 over there, but as crippled as E5 is, that bird is pretty close to needing to go to graveyard orbit soon. I don't know if it has the fuel to make the move 10 degrees.
 
vegassatellite said:
I moved from Vegas to Georgia for a year before coming to Phoenix. Wish I was still in Georgia though, wife brought me here.

Ciel has a license to use 138. They could easily do what they did with 129 and allow DISH to park a bird there until they get one over there. If it became necessary as a matter of requirement, DISH could consolidate all uplinks on 148 to just E1 and move E2 over there until Ciel gets their own bird there. It wouldn't mean any additional transponders in the meantime, but if the Canadian equivalent of the FCC has a "use it or lose it" policy, DISH could be very helpful to Ciel in that regard.

I don't see why 148 couldn't be a part of a Western Arc. 129/138/148 can be gained with current technology. No new dishes to be engineered, just use the 1000.2. With as many apartments that you have in places like L.A., Phoenix, SF, L.V., etc, an Eastern Arc, central arc, and Western Arc would bring about line of sight to many places that didn't previously have it before.

Here's a pic of a switch test showing a 1000.2 picking up 129/148 on the same Triple LNB.

attachment.php
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Well its been reported that Dish hgas a deal with both Ciel & BEV to use 13TRS art 138 with Ciel & 16 TRS with BEV at 72.5. As to what there going to use these for I don't know.
 
E1 and E2 are nearing end of design life. They were launched in 1996 so are 12 years old. Not to mention they started out at 119, and had to use fuel to move to 148. I doubt they will be moved again except into a junk orbit when they run out of fuel. They appear to have been pretty reliable compared to other Echostar satellites.

Echostar will have to build a replacement satellite for 148 soon. I doubt they were launched with more than 15 years worth of fuel and they were moved once, so probably 2 years or less on fuel. Given the launch delays they better act fast.

One good use for 148 would be to mirror 110/119 channels in MPEG4 for AK/HI like they appear to be going to do on 72.7. Interesting that they have 16 TPs at 72.7 and are going to have 1 satellite, or 16 TPs cleared at 148... Perhaps mirror 72.7 to 148...
 
kstuart said:
The also added an MPEG2 SD channel to a Texas local package which is on E*2 at 148 yesterday, ...
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If you are referring to KIDZ, it is a very strange addition to 148 indeed. It is a low power ultra-local station with variable network affiliations in the recent past.

Talon Dancer

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JohnH said:
Minor conforming activity:

UPLINK ACTIVITY: SAMPLE TAKEN 06-12-2008 18:46:59 TO 06-12-2008 18:48:03 ET


1 CHANGE(S)

CHNG 8177 KIDZ MPEG4 SD Tp 7 Spot 13 Rainbow 1 61.5w UNAVAIL HIDE
TO 8177 KIDZ{ABILENE, TX} MPEG4 SD Tp 7 Spot 13 Rainbow 1 61.5w UNAVAIL HIDE MAP 42

1 CHANGE(S) 5061 CHANNELS IN THE SYSTEM
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And then they fix the map down of this channel on 61.5 where it is among the host of other MPEG4 SD locals that are not available :confused:
 
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