Thinking about switching to Hopper - need advice

[bentjm]

I currently have:

1. Eastern Arc - two sats 61.5 and 72
2. Two 211Ks at the house - owned
3. One 222K that is used for tailgating - owned
4. America's top 200 ($74.99) and two HD receiver fees ($7.00 each) - monthly bill is $88.99 - have free HD for life

I am thinking about getting rid of the 222K - replacing it with the two 211Ks I currently use in the house and getting a Hopper and Joey for the house.

Which Hopper would I get? Which Joey? Would the wiring in the house - currently two cable runs directly from the LNB to each of the 211Ks - have to change? What would the change to the bill be?

 

[TechWriter]

Which Hopper would I get? Which Joey? Would the wiring in the house - currently two cable runs directly from the LNB to each of the 211Ks - have to change? What would the change to the bill be?

Get a Hopper w/Sling and a regular Joey. You could get a Super Joey (for those 2 extra tuners), but you would then need a 1000.4 dish (not the 1000.2 I think you have) in order to get the 3 coax cables for a Hopper & Super Joey.

BTW, if you went with a Super Joey, you could get away with running just 2 lines into your house (ignore the Winegard Travler stuff. It's for an RV):
https://rvseniormoments.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/212_dish_twotvs_hopper_superjoey_05_16_15.pdf

Cost:
$74.99
$12.00 DVR service
$12.00 Hopper
$7.00 Joey
$7.00 211k
$7.00 211k
$??.?? taxes

 

[Troch77]

An Eastern Arc 1000.2 Lnb has the same outputs as the 1000.4.
Only difference is you don't have the 4th input for a wing dish on the 1000.2.

And a Hopper and super joey use only a Solo node.

But now your connecting 2 211s, you will also need Dpp44 as well.

 

[TechWriter]

An Eastern Arc 1000.2 Lnb has the same outputs as the 1000.4.
Only difference is you don't have the 4th input for a wing dish on the 1000.2.

The EA 1000.2 has just 3 outputs -- 61.5 & two 72.7s -- which may not work with a Hopper & Super Joey. With a EA 1000.4, there's no question that it will work.

But now your connecting 2 211s, you will also need Dpp44 as well.

I believe OP is using the 211s with his Tailgater.

 

[JSheridan]

The EA 1000.2 has just 3 outputs -- 61.5 & two 72.7s -- which may not work with a Hopper & Super Joey. With a EA 1000.4, there's no question that it will work.


I believe OP is using the 211s with his Tailgater.

Of course a Hopper (solo node) and SuperJoey will work from the 3 outputs of a 1000.2.

I've installed literally hundreds of 1000.4EA's and 1000.2EA's and the 1000.2's when properly peaked generally play much better.

 

[Troch77]

Of course a Hopper (solo node) and SuperJoey will work from the 3 outputs of a 1000.2.

I've installed literally hundreds of 1000.4EA's and 1000.2EA's and the 1000.2's when properly peaked generally play much better.

Yep,
Not only that the 4th INPUT, is for using another orbital location .
It doesn't go to the Node at all.
It goes to a wing dish Mr. Tech

 

[Troch77]

Get a Hopper w/Sling and a regular Joey. You could get a Super Joey (for those 2 extra tuners), but you would then need a 1000.4 dish (not the 1000.2 I think you have) in order to get the 3 coax cables for a Hopper & Super Joey.

BTW, if you went with a Super Joey, you could get away with running just 2 lines into your house (ignore the Winegard Travler stuff. It's for an RV):
https://rvseniormoments.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/212_dish_twotvs_hopper_superjoey_05_16_15.pdf

Cost:
$74.99
$12.00 DVR service
$12.00 Hopper
$7.00 Joey
$7.00 211k
$7.00 211k
$??.?? taxes

Actually your pricing is wrong too.

Dvr fee $12
Joey $7. (Super Joey $10)
211 $7
211 $7

It doesn't cost $24 for a single Hopper

What else is Funny is the diagram you posted says right on it.
1000,1000.2 and 1000.4 is Supported.

 

[bentjm]

So, plus $19 a month to go the Hopper route.

I have two other 211Ks in storage somewhere. Replacing the 222K with two 211Ks would raise my bill $7 a month and give me the ability to push four HD TVs.

I guess I need to decide if the Hopper is worth $12 a month.

Thanks for everyone's responses.

 

[Troch77]

Yes you are going from non DVR service to adding DVR services. That's a $12 increase with a hopper.
Plus your adding receivers.

 

[TechWriter]

Of course a Hopper (solo node) and SuperJoey will work from the 3 outputs of a 1000.2.

I've installed literally hundreds of 1000.4EA's and 1000.2EA's and the 1000.2's when properly peaked generally play much better.

So with a 1000.2 EA the Hopper's three tuners will be 72.7°, 61.5°, and 72.7°?

 

[JSheridan]

So with a 1000.2 EA the Hopper's three tuners will be 72.7°, 61.5°, and 72.7°?

Each of the 3 outputs of a 1000.2EA is a DPP output that has 61.5 and 72 orbitals available. Any Dish DPP compatible receiver will work off one wire from the LNBF.

If you hook it up to a switch like a DPP44 then the internal DPP switch in the LNBF is deactivated and the single orbital that is associated with the specific output that you're connected to is passed to the switch. The ports are 72,61.5 and 72. Obviously you would only use one of the 72's, so 2 lines from the dish to the switch is what you want for 61.5 and 72.

In a normal installation with 1 Hopper 2 of the wires go from any 2 ports on the LNBF to the node. If you add a SuperJoey then you use the 3rd output from the LNBF to the integrator.

 

[Troch77]

Each of the 3 outputs of a 1000.2EA is a DPP output that has 61.5 and 72 orbitals available. Any Dish DPP compatible receiver will work off one wire from the LNBF.

If you hook it up to a switch like a DPP44 then the internal DPP switch in the LNBF is deactivated and the single orbital that is associated with the specific output that you're connected to is passed to the switch. The ports are 72,61.5 and 72. Obviously you would only use one of the 72's, so 2 lines from the dish to the switch is what you want for 61.5 and 72.

In a normal installation with 1 Hopper 2 of the wires go from any 2 ports on the LNBF to the node. If you add a SuperJoey then you use the 3rd output from the LNBF to the integrator.

Okay Hang , on, So since I have a Dpp44, I only need 2 wires coming from the LNB to the DPP44?
Not all 3?

And still 3 wires from DPP44 to the Duo Node?

I currently have 3 Wires from LNB to DPP44?
Should I remove one and which one?
And rerun a Check switch?

 

[JSheridan]

Okay Hang , on, So since I have a Dpp44, I only need 2 wires coming from the LNB to the DPP44?
Not all 3?

And still 3 wires from DPP44 to the Duo Node?

I currently have 3 Wires from LNB to DPP44?
Should I remove one and which one?
And rerun a Check switch?

If this is a 1000.2 EA then yes, you should remove one. You can use either ports 1 and 2 or ports 2 and 3 from the LNBF which should go to inputs 1 and 2 on the DPP44. And yes again, run a new check switch.

 

[Troch77]

Okay will do, That actually works out great, Because I can use that other coax.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Hey when did DISH drop the Prevue Channel?

 

[bobvick]

Hey when did DISH drop the Prevue Channel?

Did they ever have the guide on Prevue on Dish and DTV? I was TVRO only until 2001, and I think that DirecTV had full screen TVGuide Network at the time.
I remember Prevue was on C4 8 on C-Band and they had the TVRO listings as a courtesy (mainly) since the cable operators overlayed their own listings over it.

 

[david_jr]

Yes you are going from non DVR service to adding DVR services. That's a $12 increase with a hopper.
Plus your adding receivers.

I would add not only going to DVR but whole home DVR which is a premium feature. Not to mention all of the other premium features of the Hopper.