Yes, it was Dish Pointer. I first found it right after I posted this question with google. I was moving my 1000.4 as rooferers took it off. I had a spot with a 1/4 inch poece of steel to mount it, but the dish was too heavy and bent it. So I wuickly put it on an old floor frame out shed used to be on but could only get 61.5. That is what I needed dishpointer for as it looked like I got past those trees. I didn't. So until they get the garage roof done (today) I put it on a palat and got all 3 better than when on the roof. I noticed the skey and elevation were different from the recomended starting point, so I set them to that. I was perfectly level and I'll bet it was not when on the roof. All of the 3 sats are much stonger than they ever were. 2 are at least 2x stronger than the roof mount. the other is almost 2x. Instead of the garage, maybe a pole mount.