I have read on these forum where people have gotten sweet deals on the HR20 and the H20. Like for free. Who do you talk to, because when I call the best deal that I can get is $100 off a premium receive. That means that they would charge me $300 for two receivers. They did say that they would increase the per month discount from $5 to $10 and then they would give an additional rebate of $10 per month for 10 months. Told them that was not good enough and that I would stay where I was. I did have D* about two years ago.