Support the true FTA suppliers that still remain!

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As noted in the A3 owners thread, FridgeFTA forum and the Fridge store are shutting down.One less source for us to purchase FTA equipment. :(

The only purchase I made from Fridge was something small...2 Ecoda switches I think. I was late getting into the hobby and the Fridge forum was already in decline...but I found lots of good info in the older posts.

We all need to support the few true FTA suppliers that remain! The ones who care about customer satisfaction and answer our sometimes 'stupid' questions. :oops:

I'll say it again:

We all need to support the few true FTA suppliers that remain!
 
I think the people who are the most successful in this type of business are people who have worked retail in the past and have some understanding of customer expectations (even if they are not always reasonable) and how to deal with customers. And that in particular, if you are having a bad day, you don't take it out on the customers, and that if you're an opinionated sort of person it's sometimes better to keep your opinions to yourself rather than risk offending customers. You have to run a business as a business, not as a part-time hobby. I don't mean that you have to have a full-time retail establishment or anything like that, but the thing I think some people don't realize is that once you deeply offend a customer they are probably gone for good, and once you sell them an overhyped product that doesn't perform as advertised, you are going to have a very difficult time getting any repeat business from them.

I think the reason so many sellers of FTA equipment have come and gone over the years is because either they just didn't seem to care about their reputation, or they "oversold" the equipment they were offering, making it sound like whatever they were offering was the greatest thing yet when in reality it had many bugs and issues. I'm not singling out any one seller here, I'm just making an observation that happy customers are returning customers, whereas disappointed or offended customers rarely return, and they don't refer their friends. And I do realize it's probably getting a lot harder to get quality equipment out of China these days, but that decent equipment from other countries is priced so much higher that customers won't pay the difference, so that makes it difficult for sellers.

One other pitfall I have seen is where a seller will overbuy on some item and then try to continue pushing their old stock rather that obtaining newer models to sell. Nobody wants five year old receivers even if you still have a pallet full of them sitting around, unless perhaps you are lucky enough to have some "classic" model that did everything right. If you are unlucky enough to have bought too many of a receiver that is a real dog, either because it's buggy or it's overpriced compared to the competition, don't keep pushing them as the top items on your web site because potential customers will think that's the best thing you have to sell and move on. The real moral is, don't overbuy in the first place - try to only purchase what you know you can sell. You don't want to be like the guys that only had DVB-S receivers in stock when DVB-S2 took off.

Personally I think the future of the hobby is not going to be in the type of receivers we've been used to, simply because people are changing in the ways they view TV. If I were a seller I would not invest in any expensive receiver that only allows viewing on a single screen. If a receiver costs significantly more than a Roku or an Amazon Fire TV device but still limits you to viewing only on one connected TV, that's going to be a pretty hard thing to sell in the very near future.
 
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Here are the ones I shop from...

Michaels Electronics - http://nc-electronics.com/
GotCBand.COM - http://www.gotcband.com
HyperMegaSat = http://hypermegasat.com

And of course Titanium Satellite - http://www.titaniumsatellite.com/

I don't know about that Titanium guy.He only sells stuff that meets his standards,bends over backwards to support his customers,ships promptly,and even sponsors free gear contests.Been known to throw in a free switch or something with an order if the buyer needs it.Sellers like him just ruin the normal on-line buying experience.Who wants to purchase a product and have no complaints afterwards?
There HAS to be something wrong with that dude. :whistle

(The others mentioned above are class acts as well...I just had to take a jab at Titanium)
 
I went to that Fridge forum a couple of times years ago, but never joined there. Reading there was enough to let me know I didn't want to be a member. At the time I was just getting into this stuff, and had purchased some WSI equipment but reading there showed me that I wasn't welcome, ie, his rants about WSI and forbidding any discussion of that equipment. As a result of his rants, I was NEVER interested in anything he was selling either.

So, I figured if I couldn't get help there with the stuff I had, then I needed to just stick with Satellite Guys and I never looked back.

And FYI, I was a member on Ricks site also but he and I butted heads over deleted posts and I finally just asked that my account there be deleted also. Oh, and I've NEVER purchased anything from him either, and NEVER will!

The vendors here on Sat Guys are or have been helpful for the most part as I think they probably understand that you can't win a customers business by pissing them off. IIRC I've purchased stuff from at least 3 ppl here in the past because they are always here and eager to help regardless of what equipment you have!

While I agree that it's not good to see another vendor bite the dust, I think Fridge probably did it to himself because if I felt that way about him and his site, then there's probably others that felt the same way.
 
Wow I didnt read the first post and am surprised by the news. I have enjoyed working with Joe over the years! I wish him well.
 
I went to GotCBand.com and laughed when I saw the largest dish as 1.2 m. With all the hail I've been getting lately I may have to get a new 12 footer or leave the hobby if I can't find one and at a reasonable cost.
Not sure about a 12 footer, but with patience and persistence you should be able to find a 10 footer someone no longer needs. There's Craigslist and a thread on this forum somewhere (forgot the thread title) about BUD finds.
 
Too bad to lose a supplier in this hobby, but the market is small and margins must be really tight to compete. I did purchase an original A3 from Fridge, likely my only purchase from them. Thought I would try it out. It's a good receiver but it certainly had it's quirks. I have it working acceptably now and runs my steerable 1m dish. I think the hardware is good and it does 16apsk which is convenient. When you consider setting up an HTPC with a good satellite card, comparatively these STB satellite receivers are dirt cheap!

I try to support all the FTA dealers, I think I have purchased something from the dealers that frequent the forum here and a couple of others as well. I don't have a lot of wealth to spread so it gets spread thinly. I have not had any bad experiences with any of them. Only dealer I have had trouble with was off-shore... to the east... and that's ok, they have one less customer.
 
Too bad to lose a supplier in this hobby, but the market is small and margins must be really tight to compete. I did purchase an original A3 from Fridge, likely my only purchase from them. Thought I would try it out. It's a good receiver but it certainly had it's quirks. I have it working acceptably now and runs my steerable 1m dish. I think the hardware is good and it does 16apsk which is convenient. When you consider setting up an HTPC with a good satellite card, comparatively these STB satellite receivers are dirt cheap!

I try to support all the FTA dealers, I think I have purchased something from the dealers that frequent the forum here and a couple of others as well. I don't have a lot of wealth to spread so it gets spread thinly. I have not had any bad experiences with any of them. Only dealer I have had trouble with was off-shore... to the east... and that's ok, they have one less customer.

I bought an Amiko Mini HD SE from Fridge in 2015. My post office screwed up and and gave the Amiko to someone else while giving me an alarm clock. I told Fridge what happened and he sent me an Amiko Impulse at his cost to make up for my loss. He had NO obligation to do anything since my postmaster listed his original shipment as received. I give him an A++ for going above and beyond what he had to do .

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I went to that Fridge forum a couple of times years ago, but never joined there. Reading there was enough to let me know I didn't want to be a member. At the time I was just getting into this stuff, and had purchased some WSI equipment but reading there showed me that I wasn't welcome, ie, his rants about WSI and forbidding any discussion of that equipment. As a result of his rants, I was NEVER interested in anything he was selling either.

Welcome to the club. There was a lot about his site and his demeanor that I found pretty off-putting.

And FYI, I was a member on Ricks site also but he and I butted heads over deleted posts and I finally just asked that my account there be deleted also. Oh, and I've NEVER purchased anything from him either, and NEVER will!

I think the problem with that site is that he removes posts that offend him even if they would not be offensive to most others. But the thing I REALLY hate about his site is that he encourages users to blab about whatever they have found "up there" in his open forums. I'm talking about the sort of thing that would be reserved for the "What's Up There" forum on this site. So IMHO he allows posts that are damaging to the hobby, but removes posts that he personally finds offensive in some way. And I've never figured out exactly what his criteria are for removing a post, other than if you try to ask another user to not be quite so open about what they have found, he'll remove that in a heartbeat. I think he might also object to even mild profanity, but I'm not certain. I don't think some users there realize how censored that forum is, and for all the wrong reasons, again in my opinion. I thought maybe I was the only one who felt that way, until I saw your comment.

While I agree that it's not good to see another vendor bite the dust, I think Fridge probably did it to himself because if I felt that way about him and his site, then there's probably others that felt the same way.

Yup. If you want to be in business you have to be careful not to offend potential customers, or you will lose business that otherwise could have been yours.
 
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Its been said here before, but it won't hurt to repeat this. I would not recommend Galaxy Marketing at http://www.galaxy-marketing.com The website is still there, but last I checked there is no one home.

Someone I know tried to place an order there last year and as I recall the page accepted it but nothing happened after that. It tied up the money in his PayPal account for like a month until they figured out that the company was not actually going to claim it and it finally went back to him. Or something like that, I don't have a PayPal account so I'm not sure exactly how that process works.

I read an article recently that suggested that some or all of the products sold under the WSI label might have been made by a Chinese company, Anhui Bowei Electronics Technology Co., Ltd. which has a store on AliExpress. I don't know if that's really true or not. I'm not a big fan of trying to order from China directly, because if you get a bad unit it's far too much hassle to try and deal with it. But I suppose if anyone REALLY wanted a product formerly sold by WSI that might be one way to get it. I never had any problem with a couple of their C-band dual output LNB's that I've been using for several years now.
 
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Someone I know tried to place an order there last year and as I recall the page accepted it but nothing happened after that. It tied up the money in his PayPal account for like a month until they figured out that the company was not actually going to claim it and it finally went back to him. ....
I just checked "whois" and they are registered in California. There has to be a way to get that site taken down so that no one else has their money tied up. If enough of us complain to the right place, it might work.
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I don't see that happening. I still get contacted about domain names my former employer had that I set up. Paid for some years in advance. No active web site, but the records are there.

I don't think anyone not of record could take it down legally. And the folks who can have no incentive to, and maybe some risk if they did. They may not technically own it anymore.
 
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