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thegrod
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Original poster
Well, if he actually was dumb enough to email that info to you I would leave
negative feedback but I would also report him to ebay so they can kick him
out.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Heitner (Yahoo)" <ddprobert@yahoo.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>I got ripped for $100 for an mp3 player. The seller actually emailed me and
> told me he knew it was broke but needed the money and he was "sorry". I
> left
> his the worst negative feedback possible. That's all you can do.
>
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> From: VOOM@yahoogroups.com [mailto:VOOM@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> thegrod
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>
>
> All that makes sense but we are talking about a $50 item, do you think the
> FTC is going to jump on it? With Ebay, the victim can leave negative
> feedback, if the seller is unresponsive in offering a refund, but the
> shipping costs are not normally refunded so it's a poor exercise for
> everyone. It is much more prudent to thoroughly querie your seller and
> check his feedback. Make sure you ask the right questions, etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <satguys2004@yahoo.com>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:13 PM
> Subject: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>
>
>>
>> Any eBay Seller that represents in any way that the VOOM receiver can
>> receive local stations, and the buyer finds it comes on and says "not
>> activated call VOOM", must refund the purchase price and shipping. If
>> seller refuses the buyer MUST notify eBay and the Federal Trade
>> Commission. It is fraud to sell something for a use it cannot perform.
>> We all must act to stop on-line fraud. It constitutes "Wire-Fraud" and
>> is a serious crime. Just because it is wide spread does not diminish
>> the seriousness.
>>
>> Some sellers may claim they were not aware of the problem, because they
>> did not test it. However a seller has a legal obligation to take
>> reasonable steps to assure the item selling will work for the intended
>> use unless he states only that it is sold "as-is".
>> Private sellers may well not be held to as high a standard as
>> commercial sellers, but they still must deal honestly, and that means
>> full refund if the buyer cannot use the item. eBay may only be able to
>> yank the guy off eBay, but even that is worth going after.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tony N, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US
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negative feedback but I would also report him to ebay so they can kick him
out.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Heitner (Yahoo)" <ddprobert@yahoo.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>I got ripped for $100 for an mp3 player. The seller actually emailed me and
> told me he knew it was broke but needed the money and he was "sorry". I
> left
> his the worst negative feedback possible. That's all you can do.
>
> _____
>
> From: VOOM@yahoogroups.com [mailto:VOOM@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> thegrod
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>
>
> All that makes sense but we are talking about a $50 item, do you think the
> FTC is going to jump on it? With Ebay, the victim can leave negative
> feedback, if the seller is unresponsive in offering a refund, but the
> shipping costs are not normally refunded so it's a poor exercise for
> everyone. It is much more prudent to thoroughly querie your seller and
> check his feedback. Make sure you ask the right questions, etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <satguys2004@yahoo.com>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:13 PM
> Subject: [VOOM/DISH/OTA] Re: "Activated" Voom Box, how do I verify?
>
>
>>
>> Any eBay Seller that represents in any way that the VOOM receiver can
>> receive local stations, and the buyer finds it comes on and says "not
>> activated call VOOM", must refund the purchase price and shipping. If
>> seller refuses the buyer MUST notify eBay and the Federal Trade
>> Commission. It is fraud to sell something for a use it cannot perform.
>> We all must act to stop on-line fraud. It constitutes "Wire-Fraud" and
>> is a serious crime. Just because it is wide spread does not diminish
>> the seriousness.
>>
>> Some sellers may claim they were not aware of the problem, because they
>> did not test it. However a seller has a legal obligation to take
>> reasonable steps to assure the item selling will work for the intended
>> use unless he states only that it is sold "as-is".
>> Private sellers may well not be held to as high a standard as
>> commercial sellers, but they still must deal honestly, and that means
>> full refund if the buyer cannot use the item. eBay may only be able to
>> yank the guy off eBay, but even that is worth going after.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tony N, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
> * Visit your group "VOOM <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM> " on
> the web.
>
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
> _____
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>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
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