Poor San Diego CHARGERS

Hugo M Garcia

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San Diego CHARGES were rob by two really bad call by the OFFICIALS sore to said
This kind of call can definitely change the out come of a season for any team
BAD REFEERRING BAD
 
San Diego....and the media.....need to understand something.

Did Ed Hochuli screw up by calling the fumble by Jay Cutler a pass. Yes!

If San Diego on the next play prevents the TD by Cutler, the Chargers Win.
If San Diego then prevents Denver from completing the 2 point conversion, the Chargers Win.

San Diego had 2 chances to stop Denver after the blown call and didn't, that's why San Diego lost.
 
Oh, I have no doubt that my Broncos were the beneficiary of a bad call. Even the ref admitted that he made a mistake, but the play was ruled dead, and by rule... it stands.

We have all had our teams get the short end of the officiating stick; it happens.
 
San Diego....and the media.....need to understand something.

Did Ed Hochuli screw up by calling the fumble by Jay Cutler a pass. Yes!

If San Diego on the next play prevents the TD by Cutler, the Chargers Win.
If San Diego then prevents Denver from completing the 2 point conversion, the Chargers Win.

San Diego had 2 chances to stop Denver after the blown call and didn't, that's why San Diego lost.

Could not have said it better, Charles. The Chargers are a chatty team who like to talk the talk, but they can't walk it. No tears shed for them.
 
I do agree, it was a bad call. But lets face it, Jay Cutler said that he stopped immediately upon hearing the whistle as did half the O-line. The SD player was near linemen at the time the whistle was blown. Watch the replay! If Cutler had continued to go after the fumble he may have got the ball first. If other lineman pursued the SD player they may have pounded the player causing a drop or knock the ball out of bounds.

Either way, SD didn't cause the fumble. It was a new ball that caused the slip. So everyone is whining because a new ball did allow SD to get possession from Denver. Why didn't SD just man up and stop Denver from getting the score?
 
It is easy to make the call after the fact, but Ed H. is supposed to be one of the best. He should understand that on a play like that, you don't blow the whistle. And who knows who would have gotten it, we will never know because of a mistake. but that is part of the game, the chargers still had a chance to stop them, they didn't. They had a chance to stop the 2 point conversion, they didn't. So they lost. They need to focus on next week and take any anger they have out on the next team. I like San Diego, probley third favorite team, behind Green Bay and Buffalo. For them, they need to focus on the next week.
 
agree 110% :up isn't
Instant replay one of the tool to avoid an outcome like this

It is easy to make the call after the fact, but Ed H. is supposed to be one of the best. He should understand that on a play like that, you don't blow the whistle. And who knows who would have gotten it, we will never know because of a mistake. but that is part of the game, the chargers still had a chance to stop them, they didn't. They had a chance to stop the 2 point conversion, they didn't. So they lost. They need to focus on next week and take any anger they have out on the next team. I like San Diego, probley third favorite team, behind Green Bay and Buffalo. For them, they need to focus on the next week.
 
San Diego....and the media.....need to understand something.

Did Ed Hochuli screw up by calling the fumble by Jay Cutler a pass. Yes!

If San Diego on the next play prevents the TD by Cutler, the Chargers Win.
If San Diego then prevents Denver from completing the 2 point conversion, the Chargers Win.

San Diego had 2 chances to stop Denver after the blown call and didn't, that's why San Diego lost.

But let be honest here....if YOUR team or MY team was on the short end of stick on the call....they TOO would be pissing up a storm. So to bring up "they shoulda, coulda and woulda" is bull****. The ref f**ked up the game for the Chargers, REGARDLESS of what the Chargers woulda, shoulda and coulda done.
 
A truly great team overcomes adversity. Calls will go against you, injuries will happen, and it seems that the only folks who have an issue with this in this thread have Raider avatars. Vested interest.

ETA: Oh, and if the same situation gave the Raiders a win over the Chargers, I doubt Raider fans would have an issue with it. No poor Chargers.
 
San Diego....and the media.....need to understand something.

Did Ed Hochuli screw up by calling the fumble by Jay Cutler a pass. Yes!

If San Diego on the next play prevents the TD by Cutler, the Chargers Win.
If San Diego then prevents Denver from completing the 2 point conversion, the Chargers Win.

San Diego had 2 chances to stop Denver after the blown call and didn't, that's why San Diego lost.
Yeah but it shouldn't have even got to that point. And people act like stopping the Broncos deep in the Red Zone is an easy thing. It's hard to come back from that sort of a situation. To just say, "Oh well, if the Chargers were a GOOD team, they would have stopped them!" is a ludicrous argument. After you get F-ed like that, it's a little hard to stand up straight and continue your job. The fact that the OTHER refs didn't come together and just say, "Look, Ed, fact is you messed up that call, you NEED to fix this" just shows more incompetence amongst the group. I can't imagine that the other refs agreed with the ruling at the time.
 
A truly great team overcomes adversity. Calls will go against you, injuries will happen, and it seems that the only folks who have an issue with this in this thread have Raider avatars. Vested interest.

ETA: Oh, and if the same situation gave the Raiders a win over the Chargers, I doubt Raider fans would have an issue with it. No poor Chargers.

I agree, GOOD teams always find a way to win.....GREAT TEAMS win Super Bowls. That word "great" gets thrown out there WAY TOO MUCH. I have no vested issue from me because I am a firm believer that what comes around, goes around. In the end, ALL things will balance out. AND, BOTH teams are in the AFC WEST....the ONLY vested interest would be if the Earth opened up and swallowed them both.....:p;)

But I am sure if YOUR team was the one that got hosed....YOU would be huffing and puffing mad....:rolleyes:
 
But let be honest here....if YOUR team or MY team was on the short end of stick on the call....they TOO would be pissing up a storm. So to bring up "they shoulda, coulda and woulda" is bull****. The ref f**ked up the game for the Chargers, REGARDLESS of what the Chargers woulda, shoulda and coulda done.

SD had a few chances to stop them, but like you said Salsa......woulda, coulda, shoulda.
 
Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:30 am EDT

Ed Hochuli is very frowny after the disaster in Denver

By MJD

According to NFL supervisor of officials Mike Pereira, Ed Hochuli is "devastated" at what went down in Denver on Sunday. If you missed it, Hochuli made an inexplicable mental gaffe--I won't call it a "blown call" or "missed call" because I think it goes a little beyond that--that almost directly cost the Chargers a loss against the Broncos.

From Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune:

No one, it appears, is taking the mistake and its ramifications harder than Hochuli.

"He's devastated," said Mike Pereira, the NFL's supervisor of officials. "... I was talking to Ed within 10 minutes after the game was over, and he was sick. He's still sick (yesterday).

"Everybody works so hard and wants to be perfect in a game you're not likely to ever be perfect. I've talked to him three times. He's really struggling with the fact he made such a bad call."

Hochuli's also manning up and taking his e-mail lumps. His e-mail address isn't hard to find with a simple Yahoo! search, and he's been bombarded with hate mail. And still, he's replying to everyone. Someone relayed the following reply from Hochuli to a message board at the San Diego Union Tribute.


I'm getting hundreds of emails – hate mail – but I'm responding to it all. People deserve a response.

You can rest assured that nothing anyone can say can make me feel worse than I already feel about my mistake on the fumble play. You have no idea ...

Affecting the outcome of a game is a devastating feeling. Officials strive for perfection – I failed miserably. Although it does no good to say it, I am very, very sorry.

Ed Hochuli

No one was more upset about the call than me, I promise you. I was driving to a friend's house after the game, and had to stop at a local convenience store so I could throw a child-like fit and kick inanimate objects. I said things about Ed Hochuli in the hours after the loss that could've gotten me arrested. Eventually, my grief took the form of a letter from Ed's dog.

But knowing now that Hochuli feels so bad about it, it sort of takes some of the venom out of me. It's hard to hate a guy who knows he screwed up and feels bad about it.

It's just so hard to understand why he blew that whistle. A ball went flying backwards out of the quarterback's hand. In what way would that lead anyone to believe that a play should be blown dead? Why would it even occur to him to blow the whistle?

It's not like Hochuli missed a hold, or botched a pass interference call. I rarely complain about mistakes like that. There are so many shades of gray on every play, and there's so much to see. Judgment calls will be blown, and that, I've learned to live with.

This was different, though. Hochuli wasn't making a judgment. There's no way he could look at what Jay Cutler did from any angle and conclude that he threw a forward pass, any more than you could watch Ryan Seacrest wax his chest and then conclude that mashed potatoes are delicious. It just couldn't happen.

Anyway, the man feels bad about it, he's been punished, and I think I can start to let it go now. Hopefully someday, I'll once again be able to look at Ed Hochuli and see a fine official with great pecs, instead of the guy who handed Denver a win.

Ed Hochuli is very frowny after the disaster in Denver - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
 
...you forgot to add..."and if my aunt had ballz, she'd be my uncle....!";)

But think about it...they DID stop them...the caused the fumble! Isn't THAT considered a stop?! It does in MY book.....:up

I was speaking of the plays after the "fumble". You should never, never put yourself in the position where a ref's call can change the outcome of the game. Recipe for disaster.
 
I was speaking of the plays after the "fumble". You should never, never put yourself in the position where a ref's call can change the outcome of the game. Recipe for disaster.

THAT is very true, but EVERY PLAY could be up to the ref....;) As far as I am concerned, they DID STOP THEM...hence the fumble.
 
They did get jobbed, but they still had had at least 2 more tries to stop them after that. I guess that's what separates winners from losers. A vintage Raiders team would have overcome the ref's botch job. (Does that put my point in perspective for you, Salsa?)
 

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