Is it safe to ....lol....lol........Damn dude chill...out..(was it a bad day at work )..lol....I pay for what i have ,I am new to the whole dish thing, there is hacking on dish?....damn!...lol...smiley face...sorry I had too...all I really know is that (I think) c-band is free ( does not kill anyones bill ) ku is dishnetwork....I still have no idea what is Vu....and I think DTV has there own ....I have no idea....the dish I was PLAYING with was an old one I found in the trash and I thought it was cool how if you point the dish at other sat. my rec. would tell we what sat it was...( finding Nimiq 1,2,3 ) ...So thanks for everyone who took the time to read and bitch about my feed....those who helped thanks for the knowledge.......For I am still learning.......I did not mean to step on anyones feet for posting this thread again, But I don't steal.....and yes I hate My comcast cable bill also....they keep going up....I am sorry if you can't afford your bill.....damn them people that play with there dishes........OMG....LOL.........take the lol and smiley face how you would like!!.....Thanks for all who helped!