I ordered SA on Monday, they told me they would ship it on the 7th. So I figure I should get it on or before the 18th I hope. I moved from ITVN to SA because ITVN was not delivering on the channels they said we would get. I was subscribed to the Starz/Encore movie channels and for two weeks after putting in for them to fix it they still haven't. I think the ITVN company is on the way out. But anyway I'm so glad to find and be apart of a strong christian company that has a good number of tv channels. I hope the IP set top box will work as good as ITVN's box if not better.