New Satellite Internet provider?

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SpaceX/ Musk is promising "Unfettered" internet, we shall see what that brings.
unfettered certainly and at very low cost

http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/...musks_spacex_working_on_hundreds_of_advanced/

. This new Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO)/LEO alliance could be a sign of things to come in the satellite industry.

http://www.satellitetoday.com/regio...t-ceo-says-oneweb-deal-is-a-big-step-forward/

 

[ChadT41]

Call me when sat internet doesn't have a 10-20 gb cap. I might get excited then.

Some DishNet subscribers can now sign up for 50GB data caps, with higher speeds as well.

 

[Lue]

Are the current GEO satellites as bad as people make them out to be? No Video?
SpaceX is saying their new LEO satellites will replace your cable tv service, must be fast and no caps, we shall see.

http://satellitecomplaints.com/hughesnet-gen4-internet-reviews/

 

[Lue]

Will Dish cut deals with the new sat. internet players? Will be interesting as to how this new sat service plays out.

Will be a great use for Dish excess capacity now that sat. tv is on the way out.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/06/30/will-oneweb-disrupt-tv-signals/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ve-to-close-the-digital-divide-300104642.html

 

[ChadT41]

Will Dish cut deals with the new sat. internet players? Will be interesting as to how this new sat service plays out.

Will be a great use for Dish excess capacity now that sat. tv is on the way out.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/06/30/will-oneweb-disrupt-tv-signals/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ve-to-close-the-digital-divide-300104642.html

SAtellite TV is on the way out, yet both companies are launching multi billion dollar birds(DTV launched theirs in December I believe it was). Your statements tend to be to one sided, and based on a website named PRNewswire, not sure how much money I would invest in your complete ideology.
https://ireach.prnewswire.com/Home....-80562524353&gclid=CPX4gLPaxcYCFUVlfgodlfcLyA

Here is another important quote to your findings, incase you missed it:
"Moreover, OneWeb’s filings are junior to those of the larger established players. In other words they have to demonstrate that their 650 satellites do not interfere with the larger spacecraft.

But there remain concerns, especially of potential interference as each and every one of these small satellites passes under the footprint of a DTH signal. OneWeb is obliged to lower the power level of any satellite under the beam of a DTH broadcaster, and hand over its signal to another one of its orbiting constellation."

 

[ChadT41]

And another quote:

"In other words there are still significant challenges ahead for OneWeb, not least getting the first satellites into orbit and then proving to the long-established players that they do not create interference.

It was exactly these worries that caused SkyBridge to enter bankruptcy."

 

[Lue]

lol, Dish/Hughes hired PR newswire to get their story out, they are obligated by the SEC to make public what they are up to.
There are plenty of other uses for Dishes sat capacity, such as the one mentioned.
Charlie is covering all bases. Charlie and some other CEO's know that ALL TV will be delivered via the internet in 5 years. Take a look!
Dish Network also is regularly working more closely with startups as it learns to be less of a satellite TV business and more of an online commerce company that makes consumer-facing technology to sell a variety digital entertainment and information products.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/m...29&u=rFuEtNnpCoSO1qd+FguvKNdYeb8&t=1435588229

Looking out five years, Ergen predicted all TV programs will be stored “in the cloud” for on-demand viewing and delivered via the Internet, given the lower cost and ubiquity of connected devices
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ees-fit-with-t-mobile-as-he-develops-sling-tv

Where is TV headed?

A: To me, it's pretty clear that all TV is going to be streamed. It's either going to be streamed to a smart TV, a gaming console or a streaming player. That's the way people are going to watch TV. Things like DVD players are going to go away. Cable boxes are obviously going away, too. DVRs are just a stepping stone technology. When everything is on demand, you won't have to record anything anymore so that's going to disappear.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25957292/roku-ceo-its-pretty-clear-that-all-tv

 

[Lue]

Hughes/Dish have to issue PR's due to SEC rules, they pay PR companies to get the message out, and Charlie knows how to do it cheaply, (GO Charlie).

Charlie knows that he can use the current sats as well as the new sats that musk/spacex is going to launch for him to fullfill demand that the new internet sats are going to need as well as other industries requiring sat data, Charlie as usual is ahead of the general public.

Well known fact that they can tilt the angles and not disrupt overhead GEO sats
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-17/space-internet-has-already-reached-earth

Charlie Knows:

Furthermore, market research firm NPD Group predicts that 40% of US homes will have a streaming media device, like an Apple TV, Roku or Google Chromecast, by 2017, up from 16% in 2014.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/streaming-music-and-television-are-the-new-normal-cm492497

Dish itself lost 134,000 satellite-TV customers last quarter alone.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/wild-card-in-tmobile-deal-is-dishs-finicky-boss-20150604-01355

They are starting a school for people that don't quite get it from their public education.

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/discovery/2015/05/25/elon-musk-school-education-tesla-spacex

 

[Deadlocked]

Not everyone has broadband so I don't see how you can say all TV will be via Internet unless the US installs nationwide broadband.


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[harshness]

Not everyone has broadband so I don't see how you can say all TV will be via Internet unless the US installs nationwide broadband.

While the US Gubmint will do various things to promote it, they surely won't install and maintain the infrastructure themselves.

I haven't been following what the Rural Utilities Service is doing, but I'm pretty sure they still have their hands full with electricity and phone services.

 

[Lue]

A head of STEAM

http://qz.com/434997/inside-the-race-to-create-the-next-generation-of-satellite-internet/

900 micro's set to go

http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/m...ed-by-oneweb-arianespace-and-virgin-galactic/

 

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Does Charlie have enough spectrum/resources to pull this off Nationwide or must Dish have a cellular partner such as T-Mobile?

Will the user terminals that Dish/EchoStar are manufacturing for OneWeb be as simple as cellular type device. easily installed by the user?

• User terminals
  Small, low-cost user terminals talk to the satellites in the sky, and emit LTE, 3G and WiFi to the surrounding areas, providing high-speed access for everyone.

Rural Coverage For Mobile Operators
OneWeb is an extension of existing networks, not a replacement. Much of the world is already covered by ISPs and mobile operators’ high capacity networks. Our system is designed to extend these networks into rural areas and create affordable connectivity for all. Our small cell terminals and core network will be fully 3GPP compatible, so partner operators will be able to use our infrastructure with their current customers, devices and billing systems. Our terminals will connect to devices either on unlicensed frequencies, or using our partner operators’ frequencies to provide better coverage for their customers.

For rural American customers will they just tether their cell phone to their computer/roku/tv/appletv/ etc. etc. with NO terminal involved?

Is this the end of the Dish mounted on the side/roof of houses?

OneWeb should have a operable test service up and running by 2017 to satisfy the FCC's demand for Dish to prove that they are using the spectrum wisely.

Along with financial investment by its parent company, EchoStar, Hughes will play a particularly important role by developing the ground system, including gateways and terminals.

OneWeb's system will deploy hundreds of Low Earth Orbiting (LEO) satellites to enable delivery of high quality, low-latency broadband services, both fixed and mobile, as a combined offering with "cellular networks".

to close the digital divide by bringing affordable broadband service to millions of households, schools and organizations worldwide.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ve-to-close-the-digital-divide-300104642.html

http://www.oneweb.world/

 

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More reason for Dish to move to the new sat services.

A separate part of the proceeding will deal with satellite Internet — which, if approved, would open a discussion on whether to set a basic threshold for satellite Internet speeds. As with the potential move to include mobile data services in the FCC's reports, it's conceivable that someday the FCC studies could affect SpaceX and OneWeb, which are working to develop satellite-based Internet access.

bandwidth is only one part of the equation. Your Internet experience is also determined by latency, or how much time it takes for signals to bounce from one device to another. Wheeler is also asking whether to consider these so-called quality-of-service factors in the agency's reports, the official said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...l-analyses-of-high-speed-internet-deployment/

 

[dare2be]

When everything is on demand, you won't have to record anything anymore so that's going to disappear.

I vehemently disagree with this statement. "On demand" is really "on availability", putting the consumer at the mercy of the content providers/distributors. If I want to purchase or save content for my own "on demand" viewing, I'm not going to want to be at the mercy of the content owner to have it available when I want to view it. In that regard, I don't see things like DVDs, BluRays, and recorded NAS/DVR storage ever going away.

 

[Deadlocked]

Dishnet needs a free period like exede with no bandwidth (12 am to 5 am or 3 am to 8 am) restraints.


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[Lue]

DVD's are on the way out. No hardware in the home with the new internet services such as SlingTV etc. etc.

Dish CEO and other CEO's say that VOD and TV via Internet is where we will be in 5 years.

Only makes sense not to have to produce a physical disk, way more efficient to just have a digital copy in the cloud.
http://screencrush.com/dvd-sales-decline-study/

You will be at the mercy of the content owner.
Got you just where they want you.

Services like these are for you if you must own the video.
https://www.myuv.com/

In news that will surprise no one, spending on DVDs and DVD rentals has declined significantly, and spending on downloads, streaming service subscriptions, and digital rentals has increased.

Roger Lynch - CEO, Sling TV and EVP, Advanced Technologies

Sure. On VOD there is actually quite a lot of VOD that's available today I think we need to do a better job of making it easily accessible to customers but with the different programming partners we have now there is probably over 10,000 hours of VOD comp [indiscernible] so we have as Charlie mentioned earlier it's a bidding consistent depending on the channel partner whether we have VOD and what that right and whatever it is today it is frankly the worst it will ever be it's only getting improved because of their channel partners secure the right's that they can grant us or grant us additional rights if they have will be continue to take make that available so I think it started off live an obviously sports so continuing mostly live but as this business evolves you will see probably more and more viewership in aggregate in VOD I mean we already see channels that have lost of VOD content and on demand content frankly the majority of their viewing is of the on demand content not of the live channel. So I'm quite bullish on what we're seeing on VOD.

http://consumerist.com/2015/01/06/movie-studios-downloads-are-up-dvd-sales-are-down/

http://seekingalpha.com/article/317...arnings-call-transcript?page=2&p=qanda&l=last