NCAA Football 2011-2012

[Derwin0]

Done correctly, like the SEC, I love the split divisions and the CCG. Nearly all of the major rivalries were kept, and you get another big game to round it all out.

Yeah, after they tweaked it to change the number of perm. OOD opponents (from 2 to 1) it became perfect. Priot to that you almost never played some of the other teams.

I wish they'd increase the number of conf. games from 8 to 9 though. Then they could have 2 perm. opponents, and rotate the other 4 to every other year each. That would be ideal.

 

[Ramy]

Wrong thread, this is football not basketball

 

[Will94]

This is gradation weekend here at A&M. Apparently the students started chanting "SEC" at today's ceremony. I am looking for video.

 

[Will94]

Apparently, we are going to vote on Monday to join the SEC. An interesting tidbit... one of the members of our Board of Regents is Gene Stallings.

A&M calls for Monday regents meeting to talk ‘conference alignment’ | Aggies | a mySA.com blog

A&M calls for Monday regents meeting to talk ‘conference alignment’

Posted on 08/12/2011 by Brent Zwerneman
COLLEGE STATION – Texas A&M has called for a board of regents meeting for 3 p.m. Monday to discuss “conference affiliation,” according to an A&M official. The Aggies are expected to declare soon after their intentions of leaving the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference.

Item 15 of the regents agenda states: “Authorization for the President to Take All Actions Relating to Texas A&M University’s Athletic Conference Alignment, The Texas A&M University System.”

An A&M official said earlier Friday that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe had told A&M that the league would survive without the Aggies, and that Texas holds the key to the future of the Big 12. The A&M official also said the Big 12 believes Houston is a viable option to replace the Aggies.

 

[osu1991]

Sounds like Florida St will not be far behind. Get it over with so we can get on with some football

The Big 12 will be fine with 9 and will probably look at luring TCU out of the Big East move and BYU and Houston are also options. BYU would be better as it would open up a new TV market for the Big 12.

I still don't see this as anything more than a sideways move at best and really I personally think it is a step down for A&M.

Everything I have heard it sounds like the SEC was hoping for OU and OSU to follow A&M along with Florida St.

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[Will94]

The Big 12 should have been a great conference, but we've had poor commissioners from day one. Here is television revenue per conference at the time that Nebraska and Colorado left last season. We were receiving 68% less than the Big Ten! Wondering why Nebraska left (CU left because they thought that the rest of us were going to the Pac 10, and they didn't want to get left behind)?
2010 TV Revenue Per Conference

The Big 12 should have created its own television network when the Big Ten did. When Texas made theirs, it made the Big 12's impossible and it gave them a $15 million per season advantage over the other nine remaining teams in the conference. Why none of us apparently realized this until the past few weeks, I don't know, but it's not an acceptable situation. Even worse was the plan to have that network air high school games featuring their recruits. Eventually the NCAA stopped it, but that spineless weasel Dan Beebe didn't have the balls to do anything about it. He finally decided on no games for this year, but hey, down the road, who knows? He is fine with the Big 12 as a second rate conference run by the folks In Austin. Good for them, but I don't want any part of it and, frankly, I can't imagine why OU is putting up with it.

Reading this story from The Oklahoman made me bust out laughing this afternoon.
Texas A&M departure would leave future of Big 12 a Big Mess | NewsOK.com

Besides, why does anyone think the SEC would stop at A&M? If the SEC needs another team for its western frontier, Missouri's bags are packed.

The Sooners aren't a candidate. That's one thing they all agree at OU; no one wants any part of the SEC recruiting culture.

Which takes OU, and probably OSU, back to the Pac-whatever.

I am not going to say that the SEC isn't dirty, but OU isn't?!? What is this guy smoking?

By all accounts, this is a done deal, and Monday's vote is just a formality. Beebe has taken some nasty shots at A&M in the media today. Those bridges are burned. If there is any chance of us staying in the Big 12, him stepping down as commissioner will have to be the first thing that happens.

 

[Ronnie-]

I still don't see this as anything more than a sideways move at best and really I personally think it is a step down for A&M.

No conference rah rah here, but Im curious how it can be anything lesser than a sideways move (based on my own reservations about expansion). I dont see how it can be a step down, as it appears the B12 is done.

It depends on what the other conferences do IMO. If the SEC expands, so go the others, and at least there, A&M made a sideways move at the VERY least. A step up most likely.

To them, it wont hurt as what they do will determine the flow of CFB for the next year or so. And Texas must be pissed about that.

 

[Ronnie-]

i honestly miss it as it was two years ago. The big 12 was strong. The Big 10 should have gone after a few different schools, as should the Pac 10. At least in my perfect scenario.

That would have kept the major conferences, and strengthened two more majors.

 

[osu1991]

The Big 12 was getting less money because they were the first to sign a long term tv contract which didn't expire until this year. At the time it was good money until the SEC and then the Big 10 came along and got bigger deals. The same thing is happening to the Big East, they are riding out their current tv contract and instead of renegotiating early, they are opening it up to all bidders.

It is unfortunate that college football is all about the money now, instead of winning a conference championship and a mythical national title. Also unfortunate, if the rumors are true, if Texas decides to now go independent, you will probably see OU and OSU in the SEC also and losing all our traditional rivalry games except for Bedlam.

You don't really need a Big 12 network as the new deal with Fox ensures all Big 12 football games were going to be televised and all basketball games have been televised via the Big 12/ESPN syndicated network. Televising the so called Olympic sports is just a waste of money when you consider the cost of doing that versus the miniscule ratings they would bring to a network channel. A&M had the same opportunity to start their own network. This is all A&M being the angry little brother upset they didn't get what big brother did. A&M is guaranteed the same money as OU and Texas and each school retained their own rights to starting and distributing their own network intellectual property. I don't like anything to do with Texas but they were trying to step up and do something with properties they thought had value.

 

[osu1991]

No conference rah rah here, but Im curious how it can be anything lesser than a sideways move (based on my own reservations about expansion). I dont see how it can be a step down, as it appears the B12 is done.

It depends on what the other conferences do IMO. If the SEC expands, so go the others, and at least there, A&M made a sideways move at the VERY least. A step up most likely.

To them, it wont hurt as what they do will determine the flow of CFB for the next year or so. And Texas must be pissed about that.

I see it as a sideways move at best and personally a step down, as in my opinion the goal is to win conference championships and put yourself in position to win the national title or at least be ranked in the top spot. I don't see A&M having a chance of doing that in the SEC. They are in the middle of that league at best.

Texas is definitely pissed as A&M gave their word to commit 10 years to the Big 12 as part of the new tv contracts as did the other remaining 9 members, and now they have decided they still don't have enough. If Texas decides to give up and become independent like Notre Dame, then you will likely see OU and OSU going to the SEC, if Texas doesn't flinch then I see BYU, Houston, TCU and possibly Air Force as Big 12 replacements. BYU probably would be the best as it would bring in a new TV market to the Big 12, which is exactly why the SEC wants A&M.

 

[osu1991]

i honestly miss it as it was two years ago. The big 12 was strong. The Big 10 should have gone after a few different schools, as should the Pac 10. At least in my perfect scenario.

That would have kept the major conferences, and strengthened two more majors.

As a former player in the Big 8 Conference, that is what I miss. I do not think these super conferences are going to be any good for college football or college sports in general. As you said earlier the little guys are really going to be screaming about getting screwed in bowl game shuffle now.

 

[Ronnie-]

IF the expansions happen as everyone is playing it in their minds, the conference USAs and such might as well get out of Division 1 (yeah, I hate the way they name it now) football and start their own league. Teams like Southern Miss, and Memphis, and Boise (well a few years ago) will offer absolutely nothing to the bigger schools as far as scheduling, so those out of conference games with SEC/Big whatever schools will be yesterdays memories.

 

[osu1991]

I agree those smaller schools might as well drop down to FCS status or they can make a new BCS division above the FBS schools for the teams in the super conferences.

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[meathead76]

rumors are that Missouri, Florida St and Clemson are also heading to the SEC

 

[Ronnie-]

Its just a matter of time.

 

[The Insider]

If FSU and aTm were to join the SEC, that would give the SEC 10 of the top 25.. Including 4 of the top 10.

 

[Hart5150]

rumors are that Missouri, Florida St and Clemson are also heading to the SEC

I heard today that FSU and Clemson have no shot a being invited to the SEC.

 

[osu1991]

BIG 12 AD's minus A&M have been meeting for the past hour. Missouri has denied any contact with the SEC and OU, OSU, Texas and Missouri all know the same thing. The simplest route to a BCS bid or title is through the Big 12 without a conference championship game now and not by joining a larger conference or going independent.

A&M and the SEC may have some legal problems also if it appears they are involved in trying to sever one of the Big 12 tv contracts by A&M moving to the SEC.

What is A&M going to do if this all collapses in on them?

 

[osu1991]

SEC doesn't extend invitation to Texas A&M, but leaves options open - ESPN

This has gotta hurt the folks in College Station

 

[Will94]

ESPN continues to show what a joke they are by any reasonable standards of journalistic integrity. Of course their LHN is the cause of this split, so they will continue to make news rather than reporting it with any accuracy. Here is the actual statement released by the SEC (minus ESPN's edits).

Ledger-Enquirer.com | 08/14/2011 | SEC statement on expansion, Texas A&M

“The SEC Presidents and Chancellors met today and reaffirmed our satisfaction with the present 12 institutional alignment. We recognize, however, that future conditions may make it advantageous to expand the number of institutions in the league. We discussed criteria and process associated with expansion. No action was taken with respect to any institution including Texas A&M."