NCAA Football 2008-09 Season

[Jimbo]

This should be an interesting season for "That evil school from the South". Wasn't this the season you guys were pointing to last year? Meaning nobody expected your success last season? As much as we here in Michigan dislike you guys, a lot of us feel less love for all things PAC-10. Good luck.

Paul,
Atctually this year should be a blessing ....
There's NO WAY that we expected to see Larenitis and Jenkins and Boone come back, each of them came back for their SR. year, when they all would have been high picks in the NFL draft.
No one knew what to expect as far as a QB goes for the Buckeye, Beokman was an unknown comadaty.
Next year we will be without the people mentioned above, but we will have a soph. QB that everyone will be expecting to carry the team, we will still have a good running game, not sure who will be left in the receiving game .... Thats all for NEXT year, this year should be another surprisingly good year.
Can't wait to see Prior worked into the offense

Jimbo

 

[SabresRule]

Jimbo,

do you see any similarities in the USC game to the Texas game from 2006?

Think about it: highly-touted OSU team has a highly-anticipated game in a tough place to win.

 

[Jimbo]

Jimbo,

do you see any similarities in the USC game to the Texas game from 2006?

Think about it: highly-touted OSU team has a highly-anticipated game in a tough place to win.

Sure, but each game is it's own game, otherwise we would just mail the season in.
I predict there will be upsets this year ... gee theres a limb I'll climb out on

Jimbo

 

[mccoyrj]

... each game is it's own game...

Jimbo

Didn't Yogi Berra say that?

 

[HD MM]

This should be an interesting season for "That evil school from the South". Wasn't this the season you guys were pointing to last year? Meaning nobody expected your success last season? As much as we here in Michigan dislike you guys, a lot of us feel less love for all things PAC-10. Good luck.

Yup. We weren't supposed to be "as good" last year. This is the year us BucNuts are expecting big things.

And just for the record, I root for the rest of the Big10 to succeed just as long as they arn't playing my Buckeyes. Good luck to you too, team up North.

 

[stevenl]

The Buckeyes may very well make the national title game again this year. And the same result as the last 2 years will happen, as the SEC team will completely obliterate them.

Hopefully it will be FLA giving the spanking but Im worried, that GA maybe wanting to win more.

 

[SabresRule]

I don't see an SEC team making the title game.

If Ohio State makes it back, they'll face Missouri.

 

[mdonnelly]

I don't see an SEC team making the title game.

If Ohio State makes it back, they'll face Missouri.

Missouri????? Har, har, har! Missouri lost twice (convincingly) last year to an OU team that had less talent and experience than this year's team. Good luck in that Big-12 Championship game.

 

[stevenl]

I don't see an SEC team making the title game.

If Ohio State makes it back, they'll face Missouri.

:haha:haha:haha!sadroll


If you say so. The SEC currently is dominating every poll released so far the top 10s.

 

[SabresRule]

Missouri????? Har, har, har! Missouri lost twice (convincingly) last year to an OU team that had less talent and experience than this year's team. Good luck in that Big-12 Championship game.

Since you're probably a Sooners fan, I have this to say:

Good luck in whatever BCS game you get to- let's see if they can even win, let alone get there.

Besides, good luck replacing Patrick and Ryan and those defensive players.

 

[mdonnelly]

Since you're probably a Sooners fan, I have this to say:

Good luck in whatever BCS game you get to- let's see if they can even win, let alone get there.
...

You can't win unless you get there. OU gets there year after year, after rolling through Texas and whatever patsy the North puts up.

 

[Ramy]

Since you're probably a Sooners fan, I have this to say:

Good luck in whatever BCS game you get to- let's see if they can even win, let alone get there.

Besides, good luck replacing Patrick and Ryan and those defensive players.

He isn't the only the that thinks that is a crazy pick. It would be the same as me picking Kentucky to be in the BCS Championship game.

 

[jwfgeol]

New Neyland Stadium locker room pics.

Scout.com: Photos Neyland Stadium - New Locker Room - Large size

 

[david1314]

Very interesting article on SI.com from Stuart Mandel(National CFB Writer)


Ranks the BCS Conferences and tries to come up with a system to put the confeneces in order of their strengths.

The 5 Categories are as Follows:

1.BCS Bowl Record
2.% of Teams in the Final AP Poll
3.Non Conference Performance
(Using the RPI formula for NCAA hoops)
4.Non BCS Bowl Performance
5.NFL Draft

Here are the results(2003-2008)

1.SEC-40 Pts
2.PAC 10-29 Pts
3.ACC-23 Points
4.Big 10-22 Points
5.Big 12-19 Points
6.Big Least-16 Points


Results 1998-2003(Before ACC Expansion and team relocations)

1.Big 10-35 Pts
2.SEC-31-Pts
3.Big 12-25 Pts
4.PAC 10-21 Pts
5.Big East-18 Pts
6.ACC-17 Pts

Read it and weep Sabresrule among others.

Like Sam & I have stated repeatedly.

Big Least after the Exdous is terribly weak. Nowhere close to any other Conference currently. That's right Sabresrule the Absolutely Crappy Conference is far superior to the lowly Big Least.

Barely escaped the cellar when a few qualty teams were members during the initial 5 year run. (1998-2003)

Not much of a surprise to me in the findings.

Most Conferences have up and down cycles. On most, but not all days the SEC is the Superior Conference.

Though several other conferences play top notch football also. In fact all other Conferences seem to with the exception of the current cellar dwellers.

BCS invite needs to be rescinded immediately for the Big Least or at the bare minimum if the Big Least remains, then extend BCS invites to the other Minor conferences such as the MAC, Mountain West, and Conference USA for starters.

If anyone wants to read up on it it can be found at (SI.com. Stewart Mandel National college Football Writer)-Today's column.

 

[SabresRule]

The ACC is third?! Ahead of the Pac-10 and Big-12?

GIVE ME A BREAK!

They have ONE BCS win overall? That is a FREAKING JOKE!!

How can they be ahead of teams with more national titles and more BCS wins?

The ACC is a freaking JOKE!

I don't care what you say- after the Oklahoma/West Virginia Fiesta Bowl, you guys got a dose of humble pie after you went on and on on how badly OU would beat WVU.

 

[hancox]

It's not even worth bothering. It's a BS made up "ranking" based on which way Mandel's finger felt the wind blowing. Whoopdie damn doo.

But, your trumping it up is pretty nonsensical, especially:

BCS invite needs to be rescinded immediately for the Big Least or at the bare minimum if the Big Least remains, then extend BCS invites to the other Minor conferences such as the MAC and Mountain West.

...you do realize they had to rescind the rule that you ACC homers liked to call "The Big East Rule" for BCS eligibility, right?

Remember why?

Because the ACC would have had their own membership reviewed under that rule, that's why!

 

[david1314]

Look first of all, I could not care less about the ACC.

I'm a SEC fan first and foremost. Just pointing out the absurdity of a few here that try to build up the Big Least by pointing towards the ACC.

Attention:Sabresrule, the BCS wins were factored into the system as a matter of fact it was counted doubly, along with AP top 25 rankings.

So the fact you point to most, was doubled in importance to every other category with the exception of AP Top 25 Rankings and the Big least still finishes a distant last.

ACC is far better. Not even close

Big least is a doormat, nothing more.

 

[SabresRule]

Attention:Sabresrule, the BCS wins were factored into the system as a matter of fact it was counted doubly, along with AP top 25 rankings.

How can 1 BCS win in 11 years put the ACC ahead of the Pac-10 and Big-12, two conferences that have combined for more national titles?

The fact that the ACC is ranked ahead of the Big 12 is a freaking joke.

The Big 12 has more BCS wins and three national titles.

Oh, and unlike the ACC, their conference championship games are played to BIG CROWDS!

Yet the ACC STILL ranks ahead of those two?!

Somebody must be sipping the Florida State Kool-Aid.

 

[SabresRule]

Here is my personal ranking of the conferences:

1. SEC (I won't dispute that)

2. Big 12 (They have three national titles since their formation in 1996)

3. Pac-10 (Again, more titles than the ACC)

4. Big East (They are better than the early BCS days)

5. Big 10 (This conference has taken a massive hit in the last few years.)

6. ACC (1 BCS win in 11 years.)

 

[mattsarz]

Here's the story:
The Great Conference Debate - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

Here's what he used

-Percentage of teams in the top 25 AP poll (2x)
-Winning % in BCS bowls games (2x)
-Winning % in non-BCS bowls
-Nonconference RPI (Conferences' performance in nonconference games weighted by strength of opponents. Compiled by Jerry Palm)
-Average # of NFL draft picks per school

I think its fairly sound. I think there is a small amount of bias towards a conference with a larger membership since we are using averages here. A low membership means that the average could swing abnormally high or low.

2005 absolutely hurt the Big East. That season along they were 0-4 in the non-BCS bowls. On average having only two teams ranked per year doesn't help either.

I'm not sure I'd use the number of NFL draft picks as a criteria for success. A team like NC State had three D-linemen drafted in the 1st round a couple years ago after a 6-6 season. NFL drafting is really out of the schools' hands and great college players don't always get drafted (see Charlie Ward).

The Big East by having a smaller membership and overall less postseason oppotunities can hurt the conference in some rankings like these, along with who you play in the bowls. The Big East, by playing at least two bowls each year against non-AQ teams from C-USA or the MAC, can't make a dent in another BCS conference's ranking.

Also, is the AP Poll the right measure? The poll is no longer part of the process used to place teams in the BCS. Would the BCS ranking itself be a better measure since it is a combination of various entities?