MY 622 Review with Real MPEG 4 Channels.

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Well, I got my 622 in today.. It was really easy to set up in replace of my 942. Swapped out cables and plugged her in and off we went.. After doing initial check switch the receiver downloaded the software and programmed L351 to the receiver. The unit Powered down accordingly and rebooted. What I did notice was the fact the TV2 remote control screen did not pop up at all. I had to go into the system info and press record after everything was set up to get the remote address to program for TV 2. It did erase the hard drive and downloaded the program guide info. After all that was done the 622 immediately showed a picture on channel 101. I called dish and got it activated the first time. The CSR canceled my installation apt as it wasn't necessary for me. (whats the point of rolling a truck when all i had to do was a swap) It was quite enjoyable. I did have to remind the csr to add HD plat. as my package but other than that it was an a+ experience. After activating the package everything started to show up. (note the dvr was recording DVR made easy and the club dish video at this time on tv 2) The first thing I did was set all the settings accordingly to how I had my 942 set up. (1080I for HDTV Check, Extended program guide with video, Check.) I went to 6313? I think it is CBS CHICAGO HD. I noticed the picture froze for a second to allow the audio catch up and sync with the sound. Flipping between real mpg4 channels was quite a brease. It took about the same time as the 942 did to change channels with mpg 2 to change mpg4 channels. Each time the picture froze and allowed the audio to sync up for about a second. The picture quality between mpg4 channels and mpg2 channels is very noticeable as I used CBS HD on 9483 and my lil CBS HD via dish as Ginnie pigs. CBS HD from Chicago Looked way more crisp than CBS NYC. Although I do think that it was in 720P mode. I haven't been able to compare OTA though because nothing is on in hd and CBS hd in Chicago is like trying to pull in CBS from New York in la with an OTA ant. IT isn't gonna happen. For those of you who don't know CBS is on VHF channel 2 at 4.4 KW and most of the city has problems getting that one:)
Looking at the LIL guide Dish's HD channels did not appear nor did any sub channels. It just showed the analogue channels i get through dish. I went ahead and scanned in the the OTA LIL from my antenna at this time and LIL data did show up in the guide. Although it wasn't dish's mpg 4 channels but the ota hd channels through my antenna that did show up. I was missing CBS from the guide that lead me to that conclusion and when I tuned into it, it showed the antenna signal. This unit is allot quicker than the 942. I found the multi colored remote to be cool for people who don't know how to use a DVR. I personally think dish got it right with the 942 but made more improvements with the 622 and made it better. Although the software is a bit buggy that is to be expected. I think within a few months as additional units roll out that will be come less of an issue. Tonight I'm going to play around with the unit some more when I get home from school ;) Also you can tell that the new channels dish released are fake MPG 4 as how they change. I only experienced the 1 second freeze on real mpg4 channels. This is how I rate the unit..

Overall experience A+
LOOK and Feel A-
Buggyness of software B/A-
Interactivity B Missing games in interactive apps
VOD A+ Feature missing from 942
OTA Tuner A+
Initial setup A

One thing that I did think of is during the download process of the software dish should add a screen that says, "your software download is now complete Rebooting receiver"
at the completion of download so a user does'nt freak out and think something has gone wrong.

I have posted pictures of the setup process to show you all how my experience was.
 

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Awesome, i just got my 622 today also, i was thinking about setting it up but i wont be able to active it cuase my install date is next saturday :(
 
So how long does it take to change channels from mpeg4 to mpeg4? And from Mpeg2 to Mpeg4?

I was told at CES the time can take a few seconds.
 
Scott mpg 4 to mp4 about two seconds including the one second freeze. mpg 2 to mpg 4 two seconds including the one second freeze.

mpg2 ot mpg 2 1/2 sec to a sec. (veary quick)
mpg4 to mpg 2 1/2 sec to a sec. (veary quick)
 
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if you have the right wire config already cancle the install you dont need them.. thats what im going to do i have had my 622 for 4 days now but have not had time to connect it lol
 
The real MPEG4 channels? Did I miss a post somewhere telling us about the channels which are bona fide MPEG4?

Glad you got it up and running OK. Let us know if you have any spontaneous reboots. Mine seems to like doing that.
 
Smith said:
Local HD are all native MPEG-4/H.264 channels.


LIL hd for Chicago, Boston and Nashville are MPEG-4/H.264 Channels. NYC/LA i belive is mpg2 with mpg4 headers so only mpg4 recivers can get them. Same with ESPN2hd, Universal hd 9427, and the 5 new voom channels are mpg2 flagged as mpg4 in the system.
 
EchoStar Dishnetwork announced that The company will be Launching 5 more Voom HD channels for a total of 15 Voom HD, & will also launch ESPN2 HD & Will Launch for the first ever (HD LiL) HD Local Channels in 5 DMA Markets, New York, LA, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, in Febuary 2006. All these New HD local channels will be transmited in the new Mpeg4 format, Customers will need new Dishnetwork Equiptment capable of receiveing this new Mpeg4.
 
snook2448 said:
EchoStar Dishnetwork announced that The company will be Launching 5 more Voom HD channels for a total of 15 Voom HD, & will also launch ESPN2 HD & Will Launch for the first ever (HD LiL) HD Local Channels in 5 DMA Markets, New York, LA, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, in Febuary 2006. All these New HD local channels will be transmited in the new Mpeg4 format, Customers will need new Dishnetwork Equiptment capable of receiveing this new Mpeg4.

That statement is pretty dated.

Newer more recent info superceeds that and says just as has been said before, the MPEG4 channels are really MPEG2 with MPEG4 headers.
 
LiL HD are in MPEG-4.

Nothing "flagged as MPEG-4" - those service types ARE service type with different VALUEs. Only Dish can controll it; how they used ? it's depend of them.
 
How is it that MPEG4 isn't ready for prime-time because of the encoders, yet the HD LIL are in MPEG4? As we all know the OTA HD locals aren't MPEG4. So, the same encoders are used to encode the HD LIL's as the rest of the new MPEG2/MPEG4 channels, right? Or is the problem strictly with the new VoOm channels?
 
I have a qestion, and its just cause you guys are talking about distant nets, my cousin who has directv lives here in ohio, and since we are in a O&O community he gets FOX HD through directv, it just turned on one day, will I get that through Dish? or is it just a waiting game till they turn on my locals in HD?
 

Any Atlanta, GA customers get Local HD yet?

For those who have been told the 622 will come with the tech

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