A a fairly new entrant to this 'hobby' I thought I could offer another viewpoint to all the people saying 'go motorised' as it does depend on the situation. If you only want to feed one tv or have every TV recieve the same satellite then motorised is OK, as long as you do not mind the wait, and dont mind lower signal values due to having to set a best compromise on the lnb. If ther is a need for the maximum signal on each satellite or there is a need for more than on feed to be supplied (multiple rooms/dwellings etc) then toroidal has a major advantage. It is all though 'you pays your money and make your own choice'. Count yourself lucky though, as in NZ we only have a choicew of 7 satellites to get anyway