Yet you manage to pull all of that SEC data out your arse with no problem. Give us a break, will ya?
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Yet you manage to pull all of that SEC data out your arse with no problem. Give us a break, will ya?
Somebody else did the legwork, but don't worry--there were plenty of SEC fans there to review the data to point out any discrepancies.Yet you manage to pull all of that SEC data out your arse with no problem. Give us a break, will ya?
I may not have compiled that information, but it doesn't mean it's not accurate.I'm a little disappointed in these responses. Can we not have a rational discussion without people getting snippy ("Give us a break", "fits your agenda", etc.) If you have a counterpoint, then make it! But please refrain from responses that attack character, question integrity, etc.
Somebody else did the legwork, but don't worry--there were plenty of SEC fans there to review the data to point out any discrepancies.
I'm a little disappointed in these responses. Can we not have a rational discussion without people getting snippy ("Give us a break", "fits your agenda", etc.) If you have a counterpoint, then make it! But please refrain from responses that attack character, question integrity, etc.
You're confusing "snippy" with "frustration." You still haven't provided any similar data on the Big10 to compare to this SEC data that you have no source for. Perhaps it's because the Big10 travels no more in the South during the regular season than the SEC does in the North? I'd say that would be a safe bet, wouldn't you?
Also, no one's attacking anyone's character (although calling someone "snippy" is getting close), but arguing a point while obviously withholding data that most know will likely incriminate you, allows for one to question your integrity. At least pull the same data for both sides when you try to make a point.
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You might want to look at your signature. Every post you make is an insult to whoever reads it....
No one's attacking anyone's character (although calling someone "snippy" is getting close). ...
Guess it depends on your point of view, but I've changed it for all those sensitive ones. Better?
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Just thought I'd like to mention:
LSU - 38
Ohio State - 24
Ok. Now this thread is back on topic
LSU - 38
Ohio State - 24
Ok. Now this thread is back on topic
Congrats again. Now try to do it in the Fiesta Bowl, the Rose Bowl, or even the Orange Bowl.Just thought I'd like to mention:
LSU - 38
Ohio State - 24
Ok. Now this thread is back on topic
Thanks for the congrats. :up
As for trying to win in the bowls you mentioned, if the Tigers ever get an invite to the Rose Bowl, I'm sure they'll give it their best. As for the Orange, been there, done that (1962 win over Colorado, 25-7). And the Fiesta, well, doubt they could do any worse than the Sooners have (aren't they 1-3 or something like that?).
Touché on the Sooners. When the BCS Championship is in the Rose Bowl, you don't need an invite when you're #1 or #2. Texas (BIG-12) went there and won against USC.Thanks for the congrats. :up
As for trying to win in the bowls you mentioned, if the Tigers ever get an invite to the Rose Bowl, I'm sure they'll give it their best. As for the Orange, been there, done that (1962 win over Colorado, 25-7). And the Fiesta, well, doubt they could do any worse than the Sooners have (aren't they 1-3 or something like that?).
I know.
Like to see LSU make it there one day (and win, hopefully).My favorite Rose Bowl of all time. :up
Ok, so I'm taking this thread back off topic again. As a Tennessee fan, the most painful loss in recent memory was to LSU in the SEC championship game in 2001. The Vols were #2 in the nation, had just beaten a top 5 Florida team in the swamp, and were one victory away from taking on Miami in the Rose Bowl. After the loss, Tennessee was bumped to the Citrus Bowl where they won their only meeting with Michigan 45-17. I cheer for LSU in every game when they are not playing the Vols, though (both parents grew up in Louisiana and I lived there in grade school).
You're confusing "snippy" with "frustration." You still haven't provided any similar data on the Big10 to compare to this SEC data that you have no source for. Perhaps it's because the Big10 travels no more in the South during the regular season than the SEC does in the North? I'd say that would be a safe bet, wouldn't you?
Also, no one's attacking anyone's character (although calling someone "snippy" is getting close), but arguing a point while obviously withholding data that most know will likely incriminate you, allows for one to question your integrity. At least pull the same data for both sides when you try to make a point.
I think you might be missing a key point. The list I posted counts every time an SEC team plays ANYWHERE outside the Southeastern region, not just in Big 10 country. This includes Pac 10 country, Big 12 country (excluding Texas), Big 10 country, etc. A comparable list for the Big 10 would count not only visits to the Southeast, but visits to any state outside of Big 10 country (this is not a warm weather vs. cold weather comparison). With that being said, the list for the Big 10 teams would look nothing like that SEC list. As I already mentioned, with every bowl season there are ~4-7 teams playing outside of Big 10 country. (I don't think it's appropriate to throw out the bowl games from this list just because the SEC teams can't control the locations. It is what it is--long trips for Big 10 teams and in most cases games in SEC country for SEC teams). Throw in the home-and-home series with teams from other conferences and its obvious that the Big 10 plays WAY more games far away from home than the SEC. If you really think about this you will realize that you don't need to see the numbers for the Big 10 teams.
If you insist on throwing out the bowl games from the list, then I grant you that the disparity would not be as striking. However, I still feel strongly that the Big 10 plays more OOC matchups away from Big 10 country than the SEC does away from SEC country. I will look for data to back this up.
In any case, I only posted this information because I saw that SEC fans were trying to argue that they leave the comfort of their home region just as much as teams from any other conference. Do you know why people are bashing the SEC for this? Because it's the only thing people can think of to criticize the conference right now! There is no doubt that the SEC is the strongest conference and the envy of all of college football! So you might as well take pride in the fact that fans of other conferences have to nitpick to find flaws.
This was something that Coach Tressel made a point of doing as soon as he arrived.
As I have posted previously, they played Texas and have USC next and Oklahoma the years after for starters all home and home. See, not afraid to go away from home.
This is all the farther ahead I have found a schedule for.
That covers 6 years, there may be a longer schedule out, but I have not been able to find it.
Jimbo
You're confusing "snippy" with "frustration." You still haven't provided any similar data on the Big10 to compare to this SEC data that you have no source for. Perhaps it's because the Big10 travels no more in the South during the regular season than the SEC does in the North? I'd say that would be a safe bet, wouldn't you?
Also, no one's attacking anyone's character (although calling someone "snippy" is getting close), but arguing a point while obviously withholding data that most know will likely incriminate you, allows for one to question your integrity. At least pull the same data for both sides when you try to make a point.
Lets see Killer posted at about 4 pm ( you have no idea how long it took to compile the info he posted regarding the SEC OOC games and you expect a BIG TEN list some 20 minutes later when you posted next ?
Jimbo
He admitted that he didn't compile the info but got it from somewhere else. I actually asked him about the Big 10 because I thought he was looking at a website with stats or something.
Quite a few of those numbers are 1/3rd or over 1/2, a couple are 2/3rd. So what makes those numbers so bad?
Besides, how does any of that excuse Ohio St. for getting their asses handed to them? Nothing on the list is a reason for LSU (and UF before them) manhandling Ohio St. Unless you're going to actually admit they were better teams.
And back in the 11 game season era, teams like UGa only had to open games they could schedule, due to 8 conference games and 1 required in-state matchup. Why should they waste them on teams up north when they can play bigger money games against traditional rivalries (ie Clemson)?
With the extra game, they are now playing Oklahoma St. and Arizona St., which you keep ignoring.
And that would have made a difference?
Did you even watch the game? The Buckeyes were hapless.
But if we must...
2006 Fiesta Bowl
Florida 41
Ohio St. 14
Thanks, but I'm talking about LSU.And that would have made a difference?
Did you even watch the game? The Buckeyes were hapless.
But if we must...
2006 Fiesta Bowl
Florida 41
Ohio St. 14
Then why has all the excuses involved the SEC as a whole?
And again, would another location have really made a difference?
0 and 9.. You would think they would at least win one by accident.. I mean flip a coin 9 times its gotta land at head at least once you would think...
