LG versus Samsung

[charlesrshell]

I am starting to shop around for a 4K HDR TV. Would like to get some opinions on LG versus Samsung TVs. Which brand do you think is the best? Here are two TVs I have been eyeing.

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-60UH7700-4k-uhd-tv
http://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...ies-smart-tv-60-class-60-diag-un60js7000fxza/

Wonder why such a difference in price! The LG supports both HDR formats, HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I am not sure if the Samsung does or not. Thinks for any inputs.

 

[Bruce]

review for the LG-http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh7700

Samsung-http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/js7000

 

[charlesrshell]

review for the LG-http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh7700

Samsung-http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/js7000

Thanks

 

[longisland94]

OLED is by far the best in my opinion. Worth the extra money.

 

[dishdude]

Have you considered the Vizio P-series? Like the LG it also supports Dolby Vision, HDR and HDR10.

Also higher rated than LG and Samsung. http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016

 

[charlesrshell]

Have you considered the Vizio P-series? Like the LG it also supports Dolby Vision, HDR and HDR10.

Also higher rated than LG and Samsung. http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016

I have an old entertainment center that is restricting me to 60" TVs. The Vizio P-Series does not have 60" models. Other than that, I would consider Vizio. I have had good luck with Vizios. Do you know the difference between Vizio's Reference and P-Series models?

 

[harshness]

I am starting to shop around for a 4K HDR TV.

Not to be a killjoy, but if you can wait, do so. Things are moving fast in terms of UHD possibilities and each year brings new features to contemplate; more than a few of which can't be added after the fact.

I'd like to see if Dolby Vision manages to stay alive and if 12 bit displays can be practical. I'd also like to see how OLED manages to become affordable and compete in the brightness game. These are some of the features that can't reasonably be accomplished through firmware updates.

 

[Foxbat]

Not to be a killjoy, but if you can wait, do so. Things are moving fast in terms of UHD possibilities and each year brings new features to contemplate; more than a few of which can't be added after the fact.

I'd second that. I'm perfectly happy with my 55" Sammy in my Home Theater set-up and I'm limited to what can fit its 52.5" opening between the towers.

I was hoping that the thinner bezels of the current crop of 60" sets would fit, but I think even a bezelless 60" set is a fraction of an inch too wide. My Father-in-Law designed it to my specifications years back and 58" panels were just starting to appear. Who knew that 60" would become the next step up from 55"?

I think the questions on buying a TV are coming down to the UI and reliability, along with the panel technology. You could have the best panel in the business, but if the UI sucks or is clunky, you'll regret it. In some ways I'd like to see a computer monitor model for Home Theater use. No speakers, no GUI, just a singular modular HDMI input (so the hardware could be upgraded if future standards require it). Of course, you need to connect it to a AVR, but most serious users are doing that anyway. A simple power connection and a single HDMI connection to the AVR, less cables through the wall or Entertainment center. Any smarts would come from an OTT box like FireTV, Roku, AppleTV, PC, etc.

 

[harshness]

In some ways I'd like to see a computer monitor model for Home Theater use. No speakers, no GUI, just a singular modular HDMI input (so the hardware could be upgraded if future standards require it).

That's the approach that LG seems to be taking.

Of course it is in their best interest as a big proponent of ATSC 3.0 to not make consumers beholden to their TV's tuner when they're trying hard to get the new standard adopted and implemented before "The Repack".

 

[charlesrshell]

I'd second that. I'm perfectly happy with my 55" Sammy in my Home Theater set-up and I'm limited to what can fit its 52.5" opening between the towers.

I was hoping that the thinner bezels of the current crop of 60" sets would fit, but I think even a bezelless 60" set is a fraction of an inch too wide. My Father-in-Law designed it to my specifications years back and 58" panels were just starting to appear. Who knew that 60" would become the next step up from 55"?

I think the questions on buying a TV are coming down to the UI and reliability, along with the panel technology. You could have the best panel in the business, but if the UI sucks or is clunky, you'll regret it. In some ways I'd like to see a computer monitor model for Home Theater use. No speakers, no GUI, just a singular modular HDMI input (so the hardware could be upgraded if future standards require it). Of course, you need to connect it to a AVR, but most serious users are doing that anyway. A simple power connection and a single HDMI connection to the AVR, less cables through the wall or Entertainment center. Any smarts would come from an OTT box like FireTV, Roku, AppleTV, PC, etc.

Same problem with our entertainment setup we got in 2004. The TV cart was special made to 50” wide. First TV to occupy the spot was a Samsung 50” DLP, then a Panasonic 50” Plasma, and now the present Samsung 55” 3D. Most 60” 4Ks would fit comfortable with a 54” opening and 65” 4Ks around 58”. The entertainment center is all bolted together and mounted on casters so the whole thing can roll together. I plan to unbolt the cart and spread the cabinet sides out from 50” to 54” to fit a 60” 4k. And, sort of thinking of maybe expanding out to 58” to fit a 65” 4k, but don’t tell my Mrs! The issue I have is that I would like to bolt back together the TV cart to the side cabinets with the wider opening. Need to figure out how to fill the voided areas on both sides of the cart. I know it will not look too pretty but I want a bigger TV. The local Amish built the thing so I am going to check in with them. I am trying to get out of having a wider TV cart made, but might have too. Any ideas from anyone?

 

[charlesrshell]

Not to be a killjoy, but if you can wait, do so. Things are moving fast in terms of UHD possibilities and each year brings new features to contemplate; more than a few of which can't be added after the fact.

I'd like to see if Dolby Vision manages to stay alive and if 12 bit displays can be practical. I'd also like to see how OLED manages to become affordable and compete in the brightness game. These are some of the features that can't reasonably be accomplished through firmware updates.

I plan on waiting till Black Friday deals in November. I just want to make the best decission on which TV to get. Will probably be between Samsung, LG, or Vizio. I just want to make sure the HDR has both formats capability. I would love for the OLEDs to come down in price but I doubt that will happen.

 

[Foxbat]

That's a great looking entertainment center, charleshell! I'm sure your Amish craftsmen should be able to add two 2" filler pieces to either side of the center section, maybe make a new top for it the would extend the center top another 4" wider, and a new shelf for your equipment. As far as the top bridge piece with that moulding detail, though, they might need to make a new piece.

I have a similar problem, made worse by my upper bridge being storage units in addition to the edge moulding. The section under the TV was added after the original EC was built; it was originally sized to fit the Mitsubishi 55" HD RPTV (remember those?)

 

[navychop]

Remember them? I still have an RPTV as my LR TV. JVC LCoS 61".

I'm guessing 2018 before I replace it. Probably not with an OLED- I expect those will stay pricy for many a year to come.

 

[charlesrshell]

That's a great looking entertainment center, charleshell! I'm sure your Amish craftsmen should be able to add two 2" filler pieces to either side of the center section, maybe make a new top for it the would extend the center top another 4" wider, and a new shelf for your equipment. As far as the top bridge piece with that moulding detail, though, they might need to make a new piece.

I have a similar problem, made worse by my upper bridge being storage units in addition to the edge moulding. The section under the TV was added after the original EC was built; it was originally sized to fit the Mitsubishi 55" HD RPTV (remember those?)
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WOW, that is a beautiful huge entertainment center. Yep, I remember them there Mitsubishi TVs. Thanks for the idea of making a new top for the TV cart. There is no issue with the center shelf and the top bridge piece. They both are expandable and will not be any issue expanding additional 4 or 8 inches. It is that damn TV cart/console that is the issue.

 

[charlesrshell]

Remember them? I still have an RPTV as my LR TV. JVC LCoS 61".

I'm guessing 2018 before I replace it. Probably not with an OLED- I expect those will stay pricy for many a year to come.

Yep, I hear ya. Too bad LG will be the only keeper of OLED TVs. Need competition to help drive the prices down.

 

[osu1991]

Same problem with our entertainment setup we got in 2004. The TV cart was special made to 50” wide. First TV to occupy the spot was a Samsung 50” DLP, then a Panasonic 50” Plasma, and now the present Samsung 55” 3D. Most 60” 4Ks would fit comfortable with a 54” opening and 65” 4Ks around 58”. The entertainment center is all bolted together and mounted on casters so the whole thing can roll together. I plan to unbolt the cart and spread the cabinet sides out from 50” to 54” to fit a 60” 4k. And, sort of thinking of maybe expanding out to 58” to fit a 65” 4k, but don’t tell my Mrs! The issue I have is that I would like to bolt back together the TV cart to the side cabinets with the wider opening. Need to figure out how to fill the voided areas on both sides of the cart. I know it will not look too pretty but I want a bigger TV. The local Amish built the thing so I am going to check in with them. I am trying to get out of having a wider TV cart made, but might have too. Any ideas from anyone?

Even though I have a shop full of equipment for building cabinets and furniture, its been a while since I've done it. Looks like a few pieces of 1x4 or 1x6 and some matching base trim all stained to match would fill the lower gaps if stretching the width. The top with the Crown would be more difficult depending on how it is attached

 

[charlesrshell]

Even though I have a shop full of equipment for building cabinets and furniture, its been a while since I've done it. Looks like a few pieces of 1x4 or 1x6 and some matching base trim all stained to match would fill the lower gaps if stretching the width. The top with the Crown would be more difficult depending on how it is attached

Thanks for the idea. The center shelf and top bridge are expandable. If you look close at the top bridge and center shelf you can see in the center sections, there is like a sliding rail piece that slides. Both can expand or retract. It is the bottom TV cart that is stuck at 50 inches. If I unbolted the TV cart from the side cabinets, the center shelf and upper bridge can expand to fit a 60 or 65, maybe even a 70" TV. But the TV cart will be like an independent part that rolls by itself. That makes it a pain in the a-- when I want to work on the TV. Takes two people to roll out the entertainment center. One to roll the TV cart and one to roll the rest of the entertainment center.

 

[Troch77]

Same problem with our entertainment setup we got in 2004. The TV cart was special made to 50” wide. First TV to occupy the spot was a Samsung 50” DLP, then a Panasonic 50” Plasma, and now the present Samsung 55” 3D. Most 60” 4Ks would fit comfortable with a 54” opening and 65” 4Ks around 58”. The entertainment center is all bolted together and mounted on casters so the whole thing can roll together. I plan to unbolt the cart and spread the cabinet sides out from 50” to 54” to fit a 60” 4k. And, sort of thinking of maybe expanding out to 58” to fit a 65” 4k, but don’t tell my Mrs! The issue I have is that I would like to bolt back together the TV cart to the side cabinets with the wider opening. Need to figure out how to fill the voided areas on both sides of the cart. I know it will not look too pretty but I want a bigger TV. The local Amish built the thing so I am going to check in with them. I am trying to get out of having a wider TV cart made, but might have too. Any ideas from anyone?

That's a nice setup.
Is that an H2?

Samsung Galaxy S6 Active

 

[charlesrshell]

That's a nice setup.
Is that an H2?

Samsung Galaxy S6 Active

Thanks. Yes, still on 3 HWSs, 2 WJs, and one Joey 1. I am just patiently waiting for the new DPH42 switch so I can pull the trigger for a Hopper 3 system. The wait is killing me!

 

[Troch77]

Thanks. Yes, still on 3 HWSs, 2 WJs, and one Joey 2. I am just patiently waiting for the new DPH42 switch so I can pull the trigger for a Hopper 3 system. The wait is killing me!

If you get a 4k TV, are you going to get 4K joey ?


Samsung Galaxy S6 Active