Keeping 211Z activated

[dsurette]

I have a Hopper with three Joey system and a 211Z that I use in a motorhome. The 211Z sits unused most of the time and I would like to avoid having to get it reactivated every time we plan on using it. Is there a way to keep it activated by using the Hopper input with a tap or a splitter? Which device should I use if it is possible?

Thanks in advance,
David

 

[Scherrman]

I believe you would need to have a switch in place with a cable run to the 211 receiver. If it's not connected to a dish then it will not keep programming.

 

[dsurette]

Either I don't understand your reply or I didn't explain my thoughts. I want to split it where the dish feeds the Hopper at the input to the Hopper. Do I have to connect the 211Z directly to the dish? I did disconnect the Hopper input and connected it to the 211Z. I got ch 101 and a few others that you get when not activated. Check switch on the 211Z showed 61.5 and 72.
Thanks for replying.

 

[TheKrell]

You can't do that. The Hopper cable is triply-bandstacked (for the Hopper's 3 tuners). The 211z has only one tuner that must be directly connected to an integrated LNB/switch, such as a 1000.2. If you have a duo node for two Hoppers, then you will need an external switch.

 

[dsurette]

Thanks for the answers guys. I have two coaxes coming down from the dish so I probably have an open connection that I could use but I'm not about to climb on my roof and disassemble the dish to connect another coax. Guess I'll just have to keep getting it reactivated every time I want to use it. Or I could set up my motorhome dish on a tripod and keep that set up. That would look kind of tacky.

 

[agentc13]

Thanks for the answers guys. I have two coaxes coming down from the dish so I probably have an open connection that I could use but I'm not about to climb on my roof and disassemble the dish to connect another coax. Guess I'll just have to keep getting it reactivated every time I want to use it. Or I could set up my motorhome dish on a tripod and keep that set up. That would look kind of tacky.

You need both of those lines for the Hopper system.

 

[TheKrell]

I have two coaxes coming down from the dish so I probably have an open connection that I could use but I'm not about to climb on my roof and disassemble the dish to connect another coax.

I've done it may times on my current house, and my last house. What is your issue? Height? Slope of the roof? Years, ago, I got up on a ladder 3 floors up, with cement below. The roof of that house (my friend's townhouse) was so steep that I refused to get onto that roof at all!

 

[dsurette]

I was under the impression that the LNB had three outputs which would have given me one spare.

TheKrell, I don't do heights very well. I must have had a bad fall in a previous life or something like that. I don't mind flying as long as there is an airplane around me.

 

[TheKrell]

If your antenna is a 1000.x, then it definitely has 3 outputs. But cheapskate Dish only sends installers out with dual black cables, and that's all most houses have. I personally find this unacceptable. So I handed my installer 3 nice grey cables, which blend well with my roof and house and even the grey sky we have so often around these parts.

 

[navychop]

3GHz and on the Dish approved list?

 

[JayStil]

Thanks for the answers guys. I have two coaxes coming down from the dish so I probably have an open connection that I could use but I'm not about to climb on my roof and disassemble the dish to connect another coax. Guess I'll just have to keep getting it reactivated every time I want to use it. Or I could set up my motorhome dish on a tripod and keep that set up. That would look kind of tacky.

i have the same problem. You used to be able to get a authorization hit through the automated phone system by identifying yourself and then saying "error message", followed by the programming not authorized error code (I think it was/is 005). For some reason DISH removed this and you now need to talk to a CSR, and listen to their script.

I now call as a last resort. If I've got internet access when setup I PM DIRT here. The last trip I set up my tripod a week before going, and the receiver re-authorized itself at some point.

 

[Miner]

You can't do that. The Hopper cable is triply-bandstacked (for the Hopper's 3 tuners). The 211z has only one tuner that must be directly connected to an integrated LNB/switch, such as a 1000.2. If you have a duo node for two Hoppers, then you will need an external switch.

It sounds as if a Hopper will connect to a DPP LNB and receive 2 sat signals. What would happen if one connects a VIP receiver to the second host port of a Duo Node? I suspect it would work. I would imagine that dsurette has only a solo node, so the second host port does not exist so the issue is moot in his (or her) case.

Just my 2 cents.

Miner

 

[Bobby]

The 211 isn't gonna work over the Moca network.....

 

[TechWriter]

Hopper + VIP Receiver

This is how a Hopper/VIP network was shown when the Hopper was first introduced: http://rvseniormoments.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/hopper_vip_network1.pdf.

Notice that the VIP receiver does not interface directly with the MOCA network. In essence, the VIP receiver is just sitting on its own LNB line.

If you try it, let us know if it works.

 

[Miner]

The 211 isn't gonna work over the Moca network.....

But my comment / guestion was would it work on the host port which carries bandstcked sat?

Miner

 

[navychop]

A direct wire from the LNB or switch will work. It will NOT work from a node or anything downstream from a node.

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[n0qcu]

A direct wire from the LNB or switch will work. It will NOT work from a node or anything downstream from a node. Sent from my iPhone using SatelliteGuys

Have you actually tried?
Unless some try's we will never know.

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[lucky86]

Its definetly not a supported install method but it works.

 

[navychop]

I stand corrected.

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[Dishman1978]

Well, even if it works off the host port of the system matters not. There isn't any thing I can think of that would allow for that signal to be split. The OP would either need another cable ran from his dish to a location for the 211 to be connected. Or hook it up where the Hopper goes but then his Hopper system is disabled.

You can probably get dish to drop a cable from.your dish to the ground for bout 50 bucks or so.