Joey Works Without Coax Cable?

[Scott Greczkowski]

As I have said in the Pub all of these "may" work but only a coax connection is "officially" supported.

Those running wirelessly will quickly see why running it wirelessly as a permanent solution might not be a good solution.

 

[pabeader]

wonder where i've heard this before??

 

[pabeader]

As I have said in the Pub all of these "may" work but only a coax connection is "officially" supported.

Those running wirelessly will quickly see why running it wirelessly as a permanent solution might not be a good solution.

for some of us, anything is better than nothing.

 

[3HaloODST]

With AT&T U-verse this is possible as well. Too bad their HD is crap.

 

[isaacmorseMI]

With AT&T U-verse this is possible as well. Too bad their HD is crap.

Sure it's possible but I doubt it works very well.

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[3HaloODST]

With proper QoS, wireless-N, solid signal, and a router with decent cpu power, the odds of it working well go up.

 

[Teehar]

That is pretty cool and I don't even have a hopper yet.Hope dish doesn't disable that capability.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

With proper QoS, wireless-N, solid signal, and a router with decent cpu power, the odds of it working well go up.

And then your wife starts the microwave, or starts to vacuum and your signal and QOS gets shot to hell.

Most people who do UVERSE wireless switch back to wired mode within a week for this very reason.

 

[towboy123]

Not working at all for me.
The back bone of my network is 1GBps all switches are 1GBps
if I unplug it completely drops

 

[stimpson]

And then your wife starts the microwave, or starts to vacuum and your signal and QOS gets shot to hell.

Most people who do UVERSE wireless switch back to wired mode within a week for this very reason.

Your wife cooks and cleans????? Awesome!!!!! Hell, I'd watch that instead of the TV!!!!!!!

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[3HaloODST]

And then your wife starts the microwave, or starts to vacuum and your signal and QOS gets shot to hell.

Most people who do UVERSE wireless switch back to wired mode within a week for this very reason.

Haha, well I'm not "most people," per-say . I have directional hi-gain antennas and routers with DD-WRT . I can jack up the Xmit rate to that which is sufficient to overpower most of the interference. Though I would MUCH prefer MoCA over wireless for TV streaming, but as a last resort, it's not completely out of the question, if you know what you're doing .

I'm like you, I just like to do things "because I can" .

 

[GaryPen]

When the pre-release Hopper threads mentioned that Dish would not support this, the Dish-kissers came out of the woodwork to defend Dish's decision to not support Ethernet for the home video LAN, while those of us who look at things logically felt it was not smart to limit installation possibilities.

Of course, now that it supports whole-home over Ethernet, those same folks who thought it would be terrible thing for Dish to support now think it's great, and are grateful to Dish for this great technology.

 

[GaryPen]

With proper QoS, wireless-N, solid signal, and a router with decent cpu power, the odds of it working well go up.

WAY up.

 

[TheKrell]

Not working at all for me.
The back bone of my network is 1GBps all switches are 1GBps
if I unplug it completely drops

Is your Hopper on S207?

 

[sparc]

Will techs get dinged because they connected a Joey over a customer's home network instead of approved coax?

 

[John Kotches]

Gary,

When it comes down to it, with MoCA they have a predictable, controlled LAN. With standard Ethernet they have no control over other traffic on the LAN. With wireless, they have even less control since you never know when someone next door fires up a high powered router stepping on the signal.

This is a matter of usability and supportability. With target installs in the millions, using the predictable, controlled network is the only practical and IMO sane model for their tech support .

Does my understanding this choice make me a "Dish kisser" ?



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[3HaloODST]

That is true and since MoCA uses coax, it's no extra training (at least as far as running coax) and most homes already have the coax installed throughout.

I think that OPTIONS to use other methods are a good thing though, but I doubt that Dish will ever support or install other methods.

 

[GaryPen]

Gary,

When it comes down to it, with MoCA they have a predictable, controlled LAN. With standard Ethernet they have no control over other traffic on the LAN. With wireless, they have even less control since you never know when someone next door fires up a high powered router stepping on the signal.

This is a matter of usability and supportability. With target installs in the millions, using the predictable, controlled network is the only practical and IMO sane model for their tech support .

Does my understanding this choice make me a "Dish kisser" ?



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The fact that you think Dish is making a mistake by enabling whole-home over Ethernet means you are probably not. But, those who poo-pooed the idea when Dish was thought to be against it, but now think it's cool after Dish has enabled it, could be considered that.

 

[GaryPen]

And then your wife starts the microwave, or starts to vacuum and your signal and QOS gets shot to hell.

Most people who do UVERSE wireless switch back to wired mode within a week for this very reason.

But, the wired mode they often switch back to is ETHERNET, which works fine with Uverse. (As fine as Uverse can be expected to work, that is.)

 

[John Kotches]

Gary,

You need to differentiate what works vs what is supported.

MoCA is supported. If it breaks Dish needs to fix it. TP (wired) and WiFi can work, but the impetus should be on the customer to support. Dish didn't install and check the wiring or the throughput of the LAN to determine ability to meet their requirements.





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