Joey 4 w/o Hopper

[TheKrell]

Can you use a Joey 4s for streaming when the Hopper is temporarily offline for some reason?

 

[tjboston5676]

Can you use a Joey 4s for streaming when the Hopper is temporarily offline for some reason?

No, the Joey's get their internet connection from the hopper via moca.

 

[charlesrshell]

No, the Joey's get their internet connection from the hopper via moca.

Can Joey 4s connect direct to home Internet by Ethernet?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

As other said... nope.

The Hopper sends the signals to the Joey's including the internet connection for streaming.

The Joey's are basically thin clients.

 

[Almighty1]

Yes, just like the Hopper Plus uses the Internet of the Hopper even though it has it's own IP address so it uses 2 IP addresses with the Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus combo.

 

[Ray_Clum]

Can you use a Joey 4s for streaming when the Hopper is temporarily offline for some reason?

A Joey without a Hopper is like tits on a bull - totally useless.

 

[TheKrell]

And yet a Joey 3 is perfectly happy without its MoCA connection as long as it has Ethernet. This "route everything through the Hopper" philosophy seems less than optimal, particularly for streaming.

 

[tjboston5676]

And yet a Joey 3 is perfectly happy without its MoCA connection as long as it has Ethernet. This "route everything through the Hopper" philosophy seems less than optimal, particularly for streaming.

What do you mean by that? If you're talking about having a Joey connected over ethernet rather than coax then it's technically still using moca and still won't function without a hopper. If you connect the Joey just to your router with no hopper then it won't do anything at all.

 

[Universe93B]

Ahh, good thread to read. So basically, a Joey is just like an extension cord from the Hopper, nothing more. That's why the Hopper is always working overtime - it does basically everything for every tv in your house.

 

[Bobby]

Ahh, good thread to read. So basically, a Joey is just like an extension cord from the Hopper, nothing more. That's why the Hopper is always working overtime - it does basically everything for every tv in your house.

Exactly!

 

[KAB]

This is all Hopper 1.0 from 14 or so years ago. Models (3) have changed, but not the root mechanics.

 

[TheKrell]

If you connect the Joey just to your router with no hopper then it won't do anything at all.

I wasn't referring to booting off the Hopper or playing video off the Hopper. That can clearly work over Ethernet alone when the Hopper is alive and well. What I was referring to was the possibility that the Hopper could fail in some way (such as crash) after the J4 is already authorized and loaded and streaming off the Internet (if that were possible which I gather is an engineering prohibition).

GoogleTV has no issue directly streaming off the Internet w/o a Hopper. So Dish engineers have gone out of their way to force all traffic through the Hopper. That is what I call "less than optimal".

 

[HipKat]

Ahh, good thread to read. So basically, a Joey is just like an extension cord from the Hopper, nothing more. That's why the Hopper is always working overtime - it does basically everything for every tv in your house.

I've often said a Joey is like a monitor on your computer; it doesn't really do anything other than what the computer is doing and putting it in a way that you can see it. Same with the Joey, showing you what the Hopper is doing at that TV

 

[MikeD-C05]

A Joey without a Hopper is like tits on a bull - totally useless.