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hows the hr24 rate vs the vip 622/722?

im debating atm
 
Love it. Both have their own advantages, but they are minor. The 24 is very intuitive. I love the smart search, the Fav 9. It is very quick and the MRV function is great. I was with Dish 12 years, beta tester, etc. Not looking to go back any time in the near future.

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ok, hers the next part of the equation - cost

i just checked out d* pricing
i have a 622 with americas 250 and hd(not free i will not do autopay) protection plan @ $88
i did the d*
225 plan, hd extra, dvr, threw a second hdvr in there(added $8 a month)

but the price is 76 then add 30 after 12 months or 106, subract the 8 and that 98 or 10 a month higher.
 
MRV is $3 per month. SImilar to what E* is doing with the extra charge for the 922.

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HR24 is a great unit, and they really jumped on par with Dish with the improvement. As Teachsac said, Smartsearch is nice, as well as some other tricks they have.

I like their web apps too.
 
Although I think the HR24's are at least as good, neither the 722 or HR24 support two HD Televisions.


I was watching HD in my bedroom from the HD-DVR (HR24) in the living room.

Try to do that on Dish. . . Tell me how?
 
I was watching HD in my bedroom from the HR24 in the living room.

Try to do that on Dish. . . Tell me how?

You can watch recorded HD shows on the HR24 in another room with the H24 or another HD-DVR receiver and MRV. You can't watch two different channels from the same receiver on two different TVs.
 
He is basically talking about a function of MRV, which is great. As others have said though, It will not support two different HD live streams to two different TVs with one box.
 
I agree with the posters, I had Dish for a while when I switched back to Direct-The wife could tell the difference with Directv revievers. Made the Jump to the HR24 and all is well!!!
 
You can watch a channel then watch a recorded program after the program is over rewind the channel you were watching to where you left off watching without recording.
 
You can watch recorded HD shows on the HR24 in another room with the H24 or another HD-DVR receiver and MRV. You can't watch two different channels from the same receiver on two different TVs.


My original point was that you cannot do that with Dish, but you can with DTV.

The 722 has one HD tuner and one SD Tuner, sharing a common Hard Disk.

I have two HD tuners sharing a common Hard Disk. No can do with Dish. And yes, I do pay $5 for a second HD tuner in the bedroom.
 
HR24 is a great unit, and they really jumped on par with Dish with the improvement. As Teachsac said, Smartsearch is nice, as well as some other tricks they have.

I like their web apps too.

I have 2 HR24s, 922 and 722.

This is the first time Ive been excited about a direc tv dvr.
The HR24s are right up their with the vip series.

I love the speed of the new HR 24. I like the smart search.

In a strange way I think its even more user freindly then the dish vip series.

However, the fast forward speed of the dish vip units are still faster.

Its almost even. I still give dish units the slight nod. Sound is louder and fast forward is faster.
Guide still nicer on dish. Direc guide needs an update.

But I must admit Im having a blast with the new HR24s

Best and only app I use is the direc app. Its seemless and smooth!
 
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I have a HR24 and two H24 receivers for about 2 weeks. I had a 622 DISH for over 3 years. Because of MRV I have added 2 more HDTV sets. I do miss the "pause live TV" features on the receivers. I use "closed captioning" often. The remote selects it easily. I had several "Favorite" guides before. Now I only have two custom guides, but using "Quick Tune" gives another. I had more reasons to switch, but I will stay on topic here.
 
I've wanted to switch to Directv for years now (once I realized that Dish would never get Sunday Ticket), but never did solely because of the DVRs. The 24s are what got me over the hump. Moved from a 622/525 setup (with the second outputs on both DVRs fed to the entire house) to 2 HR24s and 2 H24s 2 weeks ago, and I really can't see anything that I miss from the Dish DVRs. I don't notice any difference in response time, the search functionality works better, and I even got adjusted to the guide. The pausing on the H24s isn't an issue since we only watch DVR playbacks on those. As a bonus, I discovered that the small TV I have in my office that a relative gave me a few years ago is actually HD!

The challenge for me is getting the wife and kids over the learning curve and understanding how MRV works. With the Dish DVRs, the 622 was for my recordings, and the 525 was the wife's (she watched most of her shows in the bedroom on an SD tv, which was swapped out for an HDTV as part of the move to Directv). There were shows that we both liked which ended up getting recorded on both DVRs, so we never had issues. With MRV, we can just record a show on one DVR and watch wherever, but that's where the problem comes in. With MRV, you can watch recordings from a DVR independently on two of the boxes, but one of them must be the DVR where the show was recorded. So I get situations where I'm watching something from the bedroom DVR on the H24 in the office, and my wife wants to watch her soaps in the family room. Because I already have the bedroom DVR in use, she's blocked out of watching in the family room and can only watch on the bedroom DVR. I also find times where someone may have paused a playback in a room and left to do something else, which also locks the DVR feed and I end up having to run from room to room turning off the boxes. We really didn't lose any functionality since you could only watch two outputs from the Dish DVRs and one of them was the room where the DVR resided (and the other had to be SD!), but the concept of being locked out of the DVR takes some getting used to.

One other thing I've noticed is that the RF remotes on the Direct boxes work much better than Dish's UHF remotes on the 622/525. I put one of the H24s in the basement with a channel 3 converter and fed my son's TV and 3 others that don't get much use. The Directv RFs work flawlessly, where I found myself having to point the Dish remotes at a certain spot and having to press the buttons multiple times to get it to work, even with that DVR being 1 floor closer in the family room.

So the bottom line for me is that I have a learning curve with the family, but I'm not looking back and can't wait for football season to start!
 
Jimbo said:
Thats the 90 minute buffer.

Yes. Something the VIP cannot do. Once you watch a recorded program you cannot rewind the live channel you were on without recording it.
 
I have a HR24 and two H24 receivers for about 2 weeks. I had a 622 DISH for over 3 years. Because of MRV I have added 2 more HDTV sets. I do miss the "pause live TV" features on the receivers. I use "closed captioning" often. The remote selects it easily. I had several "Favorite" guides before. Now I only have two custom guides, but using "Quick Tune" gives another. I had more reasons to switch, but I will stay on topic here.

wait a sec, you cant pause live tv?
that could be a deal killer. i use this function all the time, and so does my wife
with everything else they can do why not this?
 
mdram said:
wait a sec, you cant pause live tv?
that could be a deal killer. i use this function all the time, and so does my wife
with everything else they can do why not this?

You can pause live tv but you cannot go to live tv without fast forward.

Once you press play. there is no live tv button.

Also if you pause live tv for a minute or so and if you change channels, the channel will change instantly. With Dish it gave you a prompt that let's you know if you want to change channels.
 
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