iCRAZE- Pardon me while I take a break from my iEXCITEMENT with Windows8 Tablet thought

[TheForce]

Microsoft is expected to release a new OS- Windows 8 which is designed to be optimized for tablet touch devices. Dell Lenovo HP and Nokia, to name a few are expected to make hardware for this new OS using mostly Intel processors and a few with Arm Holdings chips. In recent past, Google has basically failed at it's attempt to knock a blow in the in Apples lead of approximately 80% of all tablet sales.

In order to offer a new game changing strategy to compete with Apple, Microsoft plans to introduce their tablet OS windows 8 bundled with Microsoft Office 15. By any measure any who have used both ipad apps and Microsoft Office suite know that MS Office outshines any app on the iPAD. To date Apple attitude toward this weakness has been indifference, so what?, or just that Apple ipad office apps are all anyone needs. This attitude is typical of the long standing philosophy at Apple in that Apple will tell the public what the public wants and what the public needs. Thus we have seen the huge growth in the popularity of Apple products because many people do need to be told what they need and want. But is this the majority of people who recognize what is possible and desire something better? I think not. In my opinion, any who argue that Apple's plan is best and we should all just follow the Apple directive, have been duped by SJ syndrome.

This doesn't mean that I feel Apple is generating a losing business model, far from it. Apple's plan satisfies a huge sector of society but I don't think the majority of society.
It is this reason that Microsoft OS and apps have long been and remain the leader world wide in user directed computing devices.

The proof will be in the sales- Let's see how we feel about a tablet that has MS Office included-

 

[Rey]

voted for - I have an ipad now and don't need what Office will offer.

 

[pro96]

I have HP Touchpad and New Ipad... No need for this MS device neither.

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[Ilya]

It will be interesting to see how well Windows 8 and Windows-compatible software works on new tablets.

Here is my prediction: Windows 8 tablets will fail to excite consumers, especially the younger generation and will present no serious threat to iPads. At the same time, Windows 8 tablets will be embraced by corporations, who like to standardize on a single platform like Windows, and will eventually dominate in business applications: field force automation, industrial applications, and many other areas. For three reasons: 1. Software compatibility, 2. Variety of hardware manufacturers, 3. Diversity of hardware specs and interface options.

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[Ronnie-]

I have been considering another tablet to supplement or replace my Ipad 1. I have looked at all options, from the New Ipad, to a cheap 7 inch android tab, to the larger more expensive android tablets.

I think for now, I am going to wait on the windows 8 software and tablet to come out. As a person who was EXTREMELY pleased with what windows phone 7 and 7.5 (mango) had to offer, the idea of that next step on a tablet is very interesting for me.

If it amounts to what I think it could, coupled with office included, Microsoft will/should have a winner on its hands.

Not sure what option that would put me voting for in the poll, so I just commented.

 

[JAG72]

Here is my prediction: Windows 8 tablets will fail to excite consumers, especially the younger generation and will present no serious threat to iPads. At the same time, Windows 8 tablets will be embraced by corporations, who like to standardize on a single platform like Windows, and will eventually dominate in business applications: field force automation, industrial applications, and many other areas. For three reasons: 1. Software compatibility, 2. Variety of hardware manufacturers, 3. Diversity of hardware specs and interface options.

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I disagree with this as I don't think many corporations will embrace it just because it is windows. Put the right infrastructure together and you can do all of the same things on an iOS or android device. That with keeping corporate data in the data center help move them in not caring what the os on the tablet is. I am also not talking about using remote desktop in order to complete these tasks. I for one will just keep my iPad and have more functionality with it.

 

[meStevo]

Will consider new platforms when they can offer what I get from current devices, in conjunction with the price points they are offered at, just as I did when the 4S was announced and instead waited for the Galaxy Nexus.

That being said, any kind of synergy I can get with my home PC (which I use for gaming so will almost certainly be Windows-based for the rest of my life as it has been the last 15+ years) could open up new possibilities not yet realized with current hardware and software.

Ideally, in several generations of hardware things will be to a point where the tablet has a powerful CPU/GPU solution on it's own, which you can then drop into a dock and is augmented by external hardware (desktop-grade video cards, other expansion ports, storage, etc) and acts as your PC as well and provide the kind of performance we see in standalone enthusiast-built PCs.

I don't think that's anything Android or any iProduct could ever offer. Phones could eventually hit this point too, with Moto-docks doing something similar now but really limited in scope and capabilities as they aren't Windows.

The inclusion of Office is significant, especially in the business sector but I think the fact that it is Windows and potentially the exact same version on tablets that are on desktops is a much bigger deal.

I don't think any of the poll options really pertain to me. We have a Fire and an iPad 2, and I'll wait until I see what Windows 8 on a tablet is like and at what price point offers to get us to switch.

 

[Ilya]

Put the right infrastructure together and you can do all of the same things on an iOS or android device.

That's the thing! You don't need to change the infrustracture to deploy Windows 8 tablets! Corporate inertia will win!

 

[JAG72]

That's the thing! You don't need to change the infrustracture to deploy Windows 8 tablets! Corporate inertia will win!

Doubt it but we will see. I know that the only way we will allow any windows device outside the corporation is to have drive encryption installed. I would hate to see how bad a tablet would run if and when that was supported.

FYI, I no longer have a pc at work and it has been great. No need to worry about when I will need to upgrade to support new things.

 

[JamesJ]

I will buy one to try it and see what it likes..as Todd say I really like windows phone 7 and think tying windows together with phone and xbox will be a good experience for me.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

That's the thing! You don't need to change the infrustracture to deploy Windows 8 tablets! Corporate inertia will win!

I don't think so. Too much momentum towards the iPad will overcome that, And people will be jaded by earlier "tablet pc" experiences.

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[Ilya]

Don't underestimate corporate inertia! Do you realize that more than 70% of businesses still use COBOL?!

Also you need to realize that the main strategic advantage of Apple is their exclusivity: they control both hardware and software.
But it's their achilles' heel at the same time! Yes, you can dictate to consumers what they need. But this doesn't fly with businesses. Businesses have more diverse needs and requirements and it is impossible for one exclusive supplier to address them all: someone will need an unbreakable "ToughPad", someone will require quick charging or replaceable batteries, someone will insist on SD-card reader or a built-in credit card scanner, and so on. Apple is not in position to address all those requests, but the computer industry in general can!

 

[TheForce]

I don't think anyone will remember earlier windows tablets, least they use what was made years ago to evaluate today's product.

Personally, I will probably get a windows 8 tablet if the hardware performs as well as my present ipad3 and it offers some function that is really important and not available on the ipad. Doesn't mean I will dump the ipad, just add the windows tablet to use only on trips and places where I would normally tag along my laptop. A windows 8 tablet will most likely obsolete my Dell laptop. But the proof is in the product. Right now it's all speculation.

Regardless of what I end up doing as a consumer, I do see the tablet on windows 8 really taking hold in the corporate world where windows is the main platform. It just makes sense. I can see more video conference calling applications that can be integrated with Power point presentations over the conference. email with group addressing and attachments such as pdf, spreadsheets and PPT.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

If I was still in a windows world, I might be interested in these tablets, but living in Apple's ecosystem, I see no compelling reason -- and for writing - other than note-taking, I do my heavy lifting with my MacBook. Its just more efficient. Of course, I don't even use Microsoft Word for that.

 

[Teehar]

This time I honestly feel that MS is a day late and a dollar short to the party.

 

[isaacmorseMI]

QuickOffice on the iPad works great with MS Word and Google Docs. No reason to get a Windows 8 tablet.

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[JAG72]

Don't underestimate corporate inertia! Do you realize that more than 70% of businesses still use COBOL?!

Also you need to realize that the main strategic advantage of Apple is their exclusivity: they control both hardware and software.
But it's their achilles' heel at the same time! Yes, you can dictate to consumers what they need. But this doesn't fly with businesses. Businesses have more diverse needs and requirements and it is impossible for one exclusive supplier to address them all: someone will need an unbreakable "ToughPad", someone will require quick charging or replaceable batteries, someone will insist on SD-card reader or a built-in credit card scanner, and so on. Apple is not in position to address all those requests, but the computer industry in general can!

But you do realize MS achilles heal don't you? Another device to have to patch monthly and more devices to have to worry about virus protection and anti malware software. Also it is a new type of device that will most likely require a different approach in software distribution to the devices.

 

[Ilya]

But you do realize MS achilles heal don't you? Another device to have to patch monthly and more devices to have to worry about virus protection and anti malware software. Also it is a new type of device that will most likely require a different approach in software distribution to the devices.

Monthly?! I am patching apps on my iOS devices daily!

Assuming Windows 8 tablets have fully functional Windows and behave essentially like laptops, then they should fit nicely into existing corporate infrastructure. Corporate IT departments have established procedures and infrastructure for installing, updating and securing Windows computers. iOS and Android based devices just don't fit into that infrastructure and require a different approach, different training, different tools and different software. That's why I think most IT departments will prefer Windows-based tablets, assuming Microsoft and computer manufacturers can deliver on their promise (which of course remains to be seen).

 

[JAG72]

Monthly?! I am patching apps on my iOS devices daily!

Assuming Windows 8 tablets have fully functional Windows and behave essentially like laptops, then they should fit nicely into existing corporate infrastructure. Corporate IT departments have established procedures and infrastructure for installing, updating and securing Windows computers. iOS and Android based devices just don't fit into that infrastructure and require a different approach, different training, different tools and different software. That's why I think most IT departments will prefer Windows-based tablets, assuming Microsoft and computer manufacturers can deliver on their promise (which of course remains to be seen).

The monthly comment is for the os only.

Tablets are a different beast so there will need to be new ways to manage them. Can't wait for software delivery tools to begin patching or sending 100's of MB over a 3G connectin. You will not be able to just manage them like a traditional pc or laptop. Maybe small businesses will get away with it but larger ones will most likely need new processes.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Monthly?! I am patching apps on my iOS devices daily!

Assuming Windows 8 tablets have fully functional Windows and behave essentially like laptops, then they should fit nicely into existing corporate infrastructure. Corporate IT departments have established procedures and infrastructure for installing, updating and securing Windows computers. iOS and Android based devices just don't fit into that infrastructure and require a different approach, different training, different tools and different software. That's why I think most IT departments will prefer Windows-based tablets, assuming Microsoft and computer manufacturers can deliver on their promise (which of course remains to be seen).

Right now I am updating iOS apps daily too -- as the new iOS5.1 and retina display causes apps to need upgrading, but I'd say that iOS updating is a lot less intrusive than the crap my university does on Windows machines, forced reboots and updates on regular basis, whether you want it or not. So glad, I am using OSX at work, and they no longer have that level of control over the machine.

The problems with Windows 8 tablets being fully-functional "Windows" machines is just that -- its going to be clunky, slow, bloated, and complex. Maybe MS will surprise me, but I doubt it. They might fit into corporate infrastructure, but I think corporate IT is seeing that it needs to adapt to a changing user-base, and changing user demands. Notice the new BYOD movement. People would rather spend $1500 on their own for a mac, then use the hardware and software they are being provided. Yeah, corporations have 'sweet deals' with companies like Dell, but their base-line machines (if they are anything like the baseline machines my university buys) are garbage.