With the looks of your season Paul, your team has had "fits" with anything that breathes.
I Really Can't Stand Tressel Anymore
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With the looks of your season Paul, your team has had "fits" with anything that breathes.
You are welcome. Just for that I hope Minnesota beats you. 
The Gophers are actually looking pretty good, so it could happen.
I can understand your frustration. While Michigan doesn't have exactly the players they might want for the spread, you know they've got some talented players and it's Rich Rod's job to adjust the offense at least a little to win until they get those players. If he can't adjust to the talent, I don't see him being successful in the long run at Michigan or anywhere else.
Tressel seems just a little too conservative in play calling, or making whoever's calling the plays too nervous. The Penn State game, didn't see all of it, seemed like two running plays up the middle then have to pass on third and long. Can't beat a good team like PSU is this year with that game plan. On the plus side, it must be great to have a freshman QB like Pryor for the next few years.
The Gophers are actually looking pretty good, so it could happen.I can understand your frustration. While Michigan doesn't have exactly the players they might want for the spread, you know they've got some talented players and it's Rich Rod's job to adjust the offense at least a little to win until they get those players. If he can't adjust to the talent, I don't see him being successful in the long run at Michigan or anywhere else.
Tressel seems just a little too conservative in play calling, or making whoever's calling the plays too nervous. The Penn State game, didn't see all of it, seemed like two running plays up the middle then have to pass on third and long. Can't beat a good team like PSU is this year with that game plan. On the plus side, it must be great to have a freshman QB like Pryor for the next few years.
If The Ohio State lets Tressel go you could end up with the same kind of coach that Michigan has.
I don't want The Ohio State to let Tressel go. I want Tressel to be The better coach.
Sandra
The reason OSU lost the Penn State game and a good part of the reason they lost the USC game is the same as always.....
They cannot get a solid O Line to save thier life, I'm not sure why, they send a O linemen to the NFL every year, they never have enough good guys to be dominant on the line, not sure why Tressel cannot get the linemen that he needs, there were two freshman playing on the line when Pryor was in against USC.
You would think getting guy's to play there would be easy....
Jimbo
Sandra, Sandra, Sandra,
You've made this game way to easy.
The Bucks were the easy pick to be up top in the polls because Laurinitis and Jenkin's decided to come back, had they not , they would have started down in the polls probably about 10 or so.
Playing Boekman full time went out the window when they lost to USC, Boekman played very poorly and I'm sure that had a lot to do with it.
If the Bucks can EVER assemble an O Line (and a few D ends) ALL would be different.
Tressel plays very close to the vest normally, look at the championship year.
He has his play card in his hand, the big yardage plays are on the other side of it.
If you ever see him flip the card over (he does from time to time) thats when we have big plays ... maybe someone should make a copy of the good side and cover the bad side up with it !
Your giving up WAY to easily and early on Tressel, just think, we could have Cooper still .... He couldn't win the big games at all.
He had 3-4 NC caliber teams and could not get there. Compliments of "That school up North"
RIP Woody
How well do you KNOW Urban ?
I like him ...
Jimbo
It's not just about winning the national title every year- you have to be consistent in contending, have a team that is capable of being a legit threat, beat your rivals, and go to decent bowl games.
Tressel's done a nice job- other than 1998, Cooper had trouble beating big rivals and winning big bowl games.
Tressel's done a nice job- other than 1998, Cooper had trouble beating big rivals and winning big bowl games.
To Sandra..
I am not a hero worshipper of Tressel and I see way too much college football to make my wife happy. I went to Florida. My wife went to Michigan.
The comments above say it all. Ohio State had trouble moving the ball before Pryor took over. Ohio State held a very high scoring Penn State in check until the end of that game. Penn State has been pummeling everybody; holding them in check is the product of good coaching.
Urban Meyer's staff makes mistakes. They lost to Ole Miss at home. (Lots of coaching mistakes there (including running up the middle going to a tight, no back formation on 4th and almost 2 when there were Ol injuries and Ole Miss has a strong defense). But, good coaches learn from their mistakes.
And, I would argue Tressel has learned. Next year, he will have an experienced, talented QB. He will not have to be second guessed for playing a senior who couldn't move the team and being left with an inexperienced QB for next year.
As for the Chris Leak comparison, there is none. Leak had been a starter since he was a freshman. He had a terrible game at Auburn and some erratic moments, but he was the clear starter. Tebow had a very important change of pace role.
As for " I do have a problem with everyone labeling this as a rebuilding or transition year all of a sudden. Nobody said that before the season started, so don't say it now, "
I think its to Tressel's credit that he didn't stick with a senior who was not performing and that he was forward thinking. Don't condemn him based on bad expectations. Who saw Penn State , Alabama and Texas Tech as contenders this year?
There are a lot of schools that would be happy with 10-2, 9-3 or 8-4 in a "bad year." Ohio State lost to USC on the road and Penn State. Two championship contenders.
Tressel also beat a more talented Miami team in the Rose Bowl. CORRECTED BELOOW TO THE FIESTA BOWL!
I'm sorry you think Urban Meyer is a jerk. He is honest, hard working and one of the brightest coaches in the game. He is a great recruiter. Florida is a very young team (10 starters will be back on defense next year).
Don Shula used to say that coaches are measured every week-- by the score and by their record. Tressel's record does not have the be defended.
I am not a hero worshipper of Tressel and I see way too much college football to make my wife happy. I went to Florida. My wife went to Michigan.
The comments above say it all. Ohio State had trouble moving the ball before Pryor took over. Ohio State held a very high scoring Penn State in check until the end of that game. Penn State has been pummeling everybody; holding them in check is the product of good coaching.
Urban Meyer's staff makes mistakes. They lost to Ole Miss at home. (Lots of coaching mistakes there (including running up the middle going to a tight, no back formation on 4th and almost 2 when there were Ol injuries and Ole Miss has a strong defense). But, good coaches learn from their mistakes.
And, I would argue Tressel has learned. Next year, he will have an experienced, talented QB. He will not have to be second guessed for playing a senior who couldn't move the team and being left with an inexperienced QB for next year.
As for the Chris Leak comparison, there is none. Leak had been a starter since he was a freshman. He had a terrible game at Auburn and some erratic moments, but he was the clear starter. Tebow had a very important change of pace role.
As for " I do have a problem with everyone labeling this as a rebuilding or transition year all of a sudden. Nobody said that before the season started, so don't say it now, "
I think its to Tressel's credit that he didn't stick with a senior who was not performing and that he was forward thinking. Don't condemn him based on bad expectations. Who saw Penn State , Alabama and Texas Tech as contenders this year?
There are a lot of schools that would be happy with 10-2, 9-3 or 8-4 in a "bad year." Ohio State lost to USC on the road and Penn State. Two championship contenders.
Tressel also beat a more talented Miami team in the Rose Bowl. CORRECTED BELOOW TO THE FIESTA BOWL!
I'm sorry you think Urban Meyer is a jerk. He is honest, hard working and one of the brightest coaches in the game. He is a great recruiter. Florida is a very young team (10 starters will be back on defense next year).
Don Shula used to say that coaches are measured every week-- by the score and by their record. Tressel's record does not have the be defended.
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There's a reason for that .....
The BSC has been here since Tressel took over and they have always been in a bowl game bigger than the Rose at the time, or the one year that he had that was worse and ended up playing somewhere else in a minor bowl.
Jimbo
Thanks for the Correction..
Oops!!!!!!!!!!! It was the Fiesta bowl, but OSU beat Miam!!!!!!!!!
Ohio State has been very good to my school (UF). In 1997, it beat Arizona State in the Rose Bowl to set UF up to win the national championship. OSU beat the Canes in the Fiesta Bowl title game.
Of course, there were the unwilling contributions, but I won't mention them here.
Oops!!!!!!!!!!! It was the Fiesta bowl, but OSU beat Miam!!!!!!!!!
Ohio State has been very good to my school (UF). In 1997, it beat Arizona State in the Rose Bowl to set UF up to win the national championship. OSU beat the Canes in the Fiesta Bowl title game.
Of course, there were the unwilling contributions, but I won't mention them here.
well....not really, but that is a wound I will not reopen.....
As far as Urban Meyer being a jerk....the ONLY people that don't think he is a jerk is his Former schools alum and his Current schools alum. Let's just say he is a Spurrier Lite with a nicer, more conniving smile.
OK, I don't want to turn this into a Pryor/Boeckman debate, because I want to trust our coach to put the player on the field who gives us the best chance to win. He's at practice, I'm not. He breaks down game film, I don't.
But your statement about the Buckeyes having trouble moving the ball before Pryor took over is false. They scored a lot of points against Youngstown, and the whole team struggled against Ohio. They had two solid drives against USC's hallowed defense, and both came with Boeckman at the helm, alternating with Pryor. This seemed to keep USC off balance for a while, but unfortunately penalties did us in.
After that it's pretty much been the Terrell Pryor show. I have no problem with that, except for people here who are calling this a rebuilding/transition year because we have a true freshman at QB. Well, we also have a senior on the bench who has AN ENTIRE YEAR OF PROVING HE CAN MOVE THE BALL behind him, bringing us to the national championship game.
Yet Tressel can't find a way to use both.
See above. He has an experienced, talented QB THIS YEAR who he is choosing not to use. And Boeckman has proven he can move the team.
Leak did not have a national championship game on his resume. Boeckman does. You're right, no comparison.
Was not performing well? See above.
Forward thinking? Forward thinking is finding a way to use both of your assets. Urban Meyer did it. So have other coaches. Tressel even started doing it. Then he stopped.
As I stated, it's not the record. You can argue the lofty win totals are partly a product of what conference they play in, and how great a recruiter Tressel is. But since he already led us to a national championship, I won't go there. If you read my post, you would see I said Tressel is a bad in-game coach.
And, of course, you're ignoring my other points. What of the abysmal red zone offense performance? Ranked 103 out of 109 teams. What about the undisciplined penalties? What about the timeout against Illinois that cost us a chance to win the game? What about finding a way to use both Boeckman and Pryor? What about not running twice between the tackles and then throwing on third and long over and over and over again, when it wasn't working?
What about it?
That's good, since I didn't attack it.
Sandra
