HR44 and 3 clients vs four HR24

[walendvay]

We currently have FOUR HR24 devices in our home. We have two people. Shows are recorded all over the place and we can share shows across all four boxes.

What do you all think about picking up an HR44 and 3 clients (or an HR44, 2 clients, and keep one HR24).

Main TVs we use are bedroom and family room. On occasion, we use the kitchen or my wife's office TV.

The idea of having shows recorded centrally is appealing, however, I am reading reports of HR44s needing reboots and such. Is this true? Is the C41 client speed really slow compared to an HR44?

Am also considering a solution to mirror a C41 across two televisions, but am a ways away from that. (would like to reduce receiver fees).

Can you manage recordings on an HR44 from a HR24?

Thoughts?

 

[harshness]

You may be better off with H24s than Genie Minis if mirroring is likely in your future. Then again, depending on how DIRECTV ultimately treats content protection, mirroring may be difficult at any level.

The usual warnings about putting all your eggs in one disposable basket certainly apply.

You cannot manage or schedule remote recordings with a DVR.

 

[mdram]

keep 3 hr24 and just add the hr44

 

[maestro7]

Here would be my recommendations, having recently upgraded to the HR44 and 1 wireless mini client.

We've kept our older HR20-100, due primarily to having a season's worth of three shows still on it at upgrade time. We also believe -- as harshness also mentioned -- that having more than one DVR in the household is definitely a good thing, especially if one goes down.

The wireless mini client is excellent and we've experienced no issues with it, slowness or otherwise.

While all shows recorded across all DVRs can be seen from any DVR or client, you can only schedule shows on the DVR that you're physically watching from. So, if you're in front of the Genie or on a Genie mini client, then shows will be set to record on the Genie; if on another DVR, then on that DVR.

 

[Blackloz]

Get HR44 - no clients and keep all the other HR's you have.


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[Rockstead]

Consider this and I think it's something people over look. The speed of the HR44 is supposed to be so good compared to the previous stand alone receivers, it will be frustrating to have a great receiver in one room and slow receivers everywhere else, it becomes more evident for someone that would switch back and forth between new and old receivers.

 

[Drucifer]

Thoughts?

You'll lose recording space and your Series Manager List will also be reduce.

 

[walendvay]

Thanks for the comments and thoughts. I agree I'd be losing space and tuners, however, the quantity of shows we record has gone down considerably. The benefit of having one centralized location and all clients being able to manage that one location is very appealing.

I was mostly concerned about having to go reboot the HR44 on a continual basis. Does this happen often?

Are you able to manage recordings via H24s the same as clients? That's an interesting idea.

I've thought about going Genie and keeping three HR24s, however, I am not a fan of an SWM16 hanging off my house and going through a rewire exercise. I am using quite a bit of existing wiring and have recently removed alot of existing dual coax that was around from the 1st generation HD TIVO non SWM.

I actually see this as a downsizing path. In other words, since more content is coming online and with physical media (and pay per view media), I am recording less. What I do record, I desire to have one clean, neat, organized list where I don't have to run from room to room.

I think I can live with lag of a C41, as I don't channel surf all that much.

There is also a desire to reduce/eliminate the fan noise from a few rooms.

Finallly, there is a desire to not have to reboot all of my boxes IF my home sharing goes down (since my home router is distributing IP addresses for everyone.

I'd go the wired client route, as the wiring is already there.

The thoughts you all are very valid and helpful.

Thanks!!!!

 

[mdram]

bit more food for thought
if a client is in use, you lose a tuner on the genie
clients cost the same as any other unit per month (h24, hr24)
if the hr44 goes down, its all down

 

[Jimbo]

Thanks for the comments and thoughts. I agree I'd be losing space and tuners, however, the quantity of shows we record has gone down considerably. The benefit of having one centralized location and all clients being able to manage that one location is very appealing.

I was mostly concerned about having to go reboot the HR44 on a continual basis. Does this happen often?

Are you able to manage recordings via H24s the same as clients? That's an interesting idea.

I've thought about going Genie and keeping three HR24s, however, I am not a fan of an SWM16 hanging off my house and going through a rewire exercise. I am using quite a bit of existing wiring and have recently removed alot of existing dual coax that was around from the 1st generation HD TIVO non SWM.

I actually see this as a downsizing path. In other words, since more content is coming online and with physical media (and pay per view media), I am recording less. What I do record, I desire to have one clean, neat, organized list where I don't have to run from room to room.

I think I can live with lag of a C41, as I don't channel surf all that much.

There is also a desire to reduce/eliminate the fan noise from a few rooms.

Finallly, there is a desire to not have to reboot all of my boxes IF my home sharing goes down (since my home router is distributing IP addresses for everyone.

I'd go the wired client route, as the wiring is already there.

The thoughts you all are very valid and helpful.

Thanks!!!!

How about this, if you need 4 tvs covered and you said you use the Main room and the Bedroom the most ...

Go with a Genie in the Main room, a HR24 in the bedroom and clients in the other rooms.

 

[DVDDAD]

keep 3 hr24 and just add the hr44

Ditto. Why would you want to downgrade three receivers and upgrade one? Take it from someone that has one Genie and three HR24's, that's what you want to do!

 

[walendvay]

Thanks for the input. Probably will just stay where I am at. If I go with a Genie and any number of HR24s, I'll still have to manage recordings on multiple units. The goal was to get away from that.

Thanks again.

 

[walendvay]

What about reboot sightings? Do you have to reboot the HR44 more than the HR24?

 

[texasbrit]

What about reboot sightings? Do you have to reboot the HR44 more than the HR24?

I have never had to reboot my HR44 due to a problem...but I never reboot my HR24 either....

 

[acostapimps]

I have the HR44 HR24 H24 and wireless mini client, and I definitely like managing recordings from either the client or H24, Especially since I can move the wireless mini anywhere I like(as long as it's not way too far from the video bridge), and can use it like if I'm using the Genie server, I never record the whole 5 tuners from the HR44 so i'm okay with 1 tuner being used from the wireless mini.

 

[jcrandall]

If you don't want to manage recordings in multiple locations you don't have to even with an HR24. My recommendation would be just to do the Genie upgrade on one box, and after you've watched anything you wanted on the existing HR24s do a "reset everything" to format them and use them as you would a client box.

The HR24 will be significantly faster than the C41 or H24, even if you don't use it as a DVR. Plus, you have backups if your Genie ever goes down, and you can pause, rewind, etc on live TV in any room without lag (which isn't an option if you go the H25 route).

The Genie is an excellent product, makes it easier to manage your recordings, and eliminates most conflicts with 5 tuners.

Best part is, it wouldn't cost you anything more than your paying now.

 

[Rockstead]

If you don't want to manage recordings in multiple locations you don't have to even with an HR24. My recommendation would be just to do the Genie upgrade on one box, and after you've watched anything you wanted on the existing HR24s do a "reset everything" to format them and use them as you would a client box.

The HR24 will be significantly faster than the C41 or H24, even if you don't use it as a DVR. Plus, you have backups if your Genie ever goes down, and you can pause, rewind, etc on live TV in any room without lag (which isn't an option if you go the H25 route).

The Genie is an excellent product, makes it easier to manage your recordings, and eliminates most conflicts with 5 tuners.

Best part is, it wouldn't cost you anything more than your paying now.

Hi, few comments because I've been doing the same research and I have read through so many threads here and on other forums.

If I'm like the OP I want one season manager, for the time I'm in my bedroom and I see a new series I want to record and I set it there and then when I'm back to my main receiver I can't remember if I set it up in the bedroom, I end up recording stuff twice, missing recordings, leaving myself notes so I can move it to the main receiver, I'm Anal that way and I just want one view without the hassle, my season list is always near full.

Also the rest of the family can be garbage collector's, recording seasons here and there and not even watching their shows, I want to be able to clean up from wherever I am and not have to relocate to the source receiver.

On the threads I read, the comments made about the the Wired version of the c41 was that it was just like being in front of the HR44, I don't see how the HR24 could be faster?

Even with the wireless c41, it had many saying the response time was excellent but personally I've decided not to mess with wireless video bridges, everything I have is wired.

 

[Blackloz]

I've never used a client, but I have a 24,44 and I don't notice any difference in speed between the two.


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[acostapimps]

I've never used a client, but I have a 24,44 and I don't notice any difference in speed between the two.


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I definitely do, and there's plenty of space for recordings on the 24

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[Rockstead]

Hi, few comments because I've been doing the same research and I have read through so many threads here and on other forums.

If I'm like the OP I want one season manager, for the time I'm in my bedroom and I see a new series I want to record and I set it there and then when I'm back to my main receiver I can't remember if I set it up in the bedroom, I end up recording stuff twice, missing recordings, leaving myself notes so I can move it to the main receiver, I'm Anal that way and I just want one view without the hassle, my season list is always near full.

Also the rest of the family can be garbage collector's, recording seasons here and there and not even watching their shows, I want to be able to clean up from wherever I am and not have to relocate to the source receiver.

On the threads I read, the comments made about the the Wired version of the c41 was that it was just like being in front of the HR44, I don't see how the HR24 could be faster?

Even with the wireless c41, it had many saying the response time was excellent but personally I've decided not to mess with wireless video bridges, everything I have is wired.

The more I read up on the c41 the more I hear about the lag, I'm coming from a hr23, I want to get away from lagging. I know I posted previously that I read it was the same speed,
But the more posts I read on it the more I see the lag issue.

I really likes the price point of the clients too, hr24s are in the area of $200ish from dealers.

MRV started laggy and it's near perfect today, but clients have been around for awhile, I guess it's a technical barrier.

Just wish HR24s could share season manager.