How long will it take for Dish to respond to the satellite launch failure??

[tigerfan33]

With all of our heads spinning this morning with the bad news. With the inept pr dept Dish has. How long will it take for Dish to respond to what happen yesterday?? Do you honestly think Dish has a REAL back-up plan in place?? I am sure they will spin it in a way that will make most people think "what the hell". Remember we are dealing with a company that tells America that it has 90 or 80 something hd. I do believe it is almost important to tell subs the truth and at the same time hopefully take some action. "SOON"

 

[nlk10010]

I would imagine we'd see Charlie look people straight in the eye and tell them, calmly, that this will have little or no impact on E*'s plans. They have spares, this was just a backup, etc.

Frankly, what can he say? The best way to approach this is like Bobby Knight. When one of his players was injured and a reporter asked Knight what he would do now that "so-and-so" wasn't available, Knight would look the reporter straight in the eye and ask who "so-and-so" was and say that he had never heard of "so-and-so" and the reporter must be confused. Charlie: "what satellite"? "I don't know of any satellite we were scheduled to launch".

 

[jansan]

Dish has to wait for the SESAmericom response. Dish was only leasing space on the satellite. Dish must be informed before they can issue a generic press release. It is not Dish's fault.

 

[tigerfan33]

Dish has to wait for the SESAmericom response. Dish was only leasing space on the satellite. Dish must be informed before they can issue a generic press release. It is not Dish's fault.

LOL. No one is blaming Dish on the launch failure. At least I am not. How Dish responds is the responsibility of Dish and only Dish.

 

[jcrandall]

They probally won't respond. They can still startup some HD locals on E12.

During everything they said to customers recently - no dates were mentioned. They just said soon. Soon can mean a year or more, especially at Dish.

 

[tigerfan33]

They probally won't respond. They can still startup some HD locals on E12.

During everything they said to customers recently - no dates were mentioned. They just said soon. Soon can mean a year or more, especially at Dish.

No dates were mentioned but he did say most of the national hd would be up by summer. He also said that they have room to launch hd but contracts are not in place. I believe he told it to the Sat. Guy member who called about Speed hd.

 

[darrencp22]

Remember they will have space with Sky Angel going dark. That helps.

 

[jansan]

LOL. No one is blaming Dish on the launch failure. At least I am not. How Dish responds is the responsibility of Dish and only Dish.

Agree. I do not know how Dish could respond until SES-A issues a press release. Dish should issue a release, but after SES-A. We don't want Dish to prematurely issue a press release when they do not have all the information. That's not fair to Dish.

 

[DishDave]

This is a very sad day for Dish. I was waiting to see what Dish was going to do as far as HD Exp. Right now i have to Vip 722s and a Vip 211 Total out of pocket expense for all 3 receivers to me was $50.00 Do ask me how. I am a long term customer with them. Right now i just priced the equipment from DTV and i came to $396.00 plus the monthly package is more. I really do like Dish and i am very saddened by the loss of the Sat. I will have to wait and see. Right now i have many options to me I.E. Comcast/Dish/DTV/Fios
Sometimes i think i have to many options to me and i makes it harder to decide.

 

[KAB]

LOL. No one is blaming Dish on the launch failure. At least I am not. How Dish responds is the responsibility of Dish and only Dish.

How Dish responds is how Dish will respond. Aren't you getting dizzy chasing your tail?

 

[Slamminc11]

... I do believe it is almost important to tell subs the truth and at the same time hopefully take some action. "SOON"

97-98% of Dish's subs don't even know there was a sat launch yesterday, and of the 2% or so that did know, half of those probably don't even realize that Dish doesn't own the satellite.
Dish doesn't need to say a thing until after the owners of the satellite do and only after some kind of decision is made.
The majority of Dish subs (and Direct subs for that matter) are not tech savy what so ever, and only want to have their tv turn on when they hit the power button so they can watch the show they want to watch. It doesn't matter to them how the show gets from where it was made to their tv as long as it gets there. Nor do they understand the nuances of satellites, orbits, transponders, etc, etc, etc. or care.

 

[JEFFinINDY]

No dates were mentioned but he did say most of the national hd would be up by summer. He also said that they have room to launch hd but contracts are not in place. I believe he told it to the Sat. Guy member who called about Speed hd.

If most of the new HD was to be launched between now and summer, doesn't that mean it would have to be available on 129 as well as 61.5?

If that's the case, then couldn't they just delay some of the local markets that were going to be on 61.5, put those transponders back into Conus mode, and continue with their national HD plans?

 

[drdroo]

If that's the case, then couldn't they just delay some of the local markets that were going to be on 61.5, put those transponders back into Conus mode, and continue with their national HD plans?

It's possible, but I think they have a HD must-carry problem on their hands. If they do, they might be able to knock on the FCC's door and say 'hey we tried but..'

This could be pretty interesting if they shoot the satellite up to the necessary orbit using the onboard though. If they could get 5 years out of it that'd give enough time to replace.

The game isn't over just yet. There's certainly a lot of ups and downs in this journey for more HD..

 

[TalonDancer]

If most of the new HD was to be launched between now and summer, doesn't that mean it would have to be available on 129 as well as 61.5? ...

Doesn't it make more sense to put all the HD locals for the East on 61.5 and the West on 129 in spot beam and free up the TPs on 110 and 119 for new national HD in CONUS.

AFAIK that has been their plan all along.

Talon Dancer

 

[goaliebob99]

All of them would have to get changed to get enough bandwidth to be able to launch the existing services and have enough room for new services.

 

[JH1949]

How many SD channels would have to be changed on 110/119 to MPEG4 to do what Talon Dancer is suggesting ?

All of them would have to get changed to get enough bandwidth to be able to launch the existing services and have enough room for new services.

 

[BrianB]

With all of our heads spinning this morning with the bad news. With the inept pr dept Dish has. How long will it take for Dish to respond to what happen yesterday?? Do you honestly think Dish has a REAL back-up plan in place?? I am sure they will spin it in a way that will make most people think "what the hell". Remember we are dealing with a company that tells America that it has 90 or 80 something hd. I do believe it is almost important to tell subs the truth and at the same time hopefully take some action. "SOON"

We are a select few who even know that there was a launch yesterday let alone that Dish was going to use the sat. I don't see Dish to saying anything publicly (press release, etc) about the failure that will give us any real information.

However, I'm sure we can count on Scott to give us the real scoop.

 

[drdroo]

Dish doesn't 'have a sat' until after testing and positioning. It's SES Americom's problem up until that point. Even after that it's still SES Americom's problem since I think they're basically leasing transponder space, not a satellite. But not 100% sure on that.

I'd like to hope they'd just try to position the thing, if only for a learning experience if nothing else. However, people are right when they say it boils out to insurance.

It'll be an interesting week.

On the plus side, I put up my Peerless SP850-HG during the launch.

 

[TalonDancer]

All of them would have to get changed to get enough bandwidth to be able to launch the existing services and have enough room for new services.

Dish has been up-linking both new and existing HD locals, as far west as Texas, onto 61.5. Several of these (e.g. Dallas and Houston) are currently on 110. AFAIK these moves are to free up TPS on 110/119 for National HD so that it does not need to be mirrored on two sats.

Talon Dancer

 

[db2]

Dish will do what they always do...say nothing about the incident until they need to use it as a scapegoat for poor company performance.