Hopper vs direct tv
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you probably have the option of skipping it or shutting someone off
aaahh, here is a problem with the lack of tuner in a joey then
dish should rethink this design
Why? You have the same situation now (having to choose between skipping and shutting someone off). The benefit now would be you can choose which tuner to use/shut off.
On a related note, will there be a hierarchy of which tuners to use when recording, similar to the Record Plus function of the dual-tuner ViPs? Or is there even a need for this now?
On a related note, will there be a hierarchy of which tuners to use when recording, similar to the Record Plus function of the dual-tuner ViPs? Or is there even a need for this now?
The saving grace to this is the Prime Time recording. There are night that all 4 networks are being recorded here at my house.. But It's still not enough. I record everything. I only watch live when it's a sporting event. And sometimes am recording two or three of those while watching another..
Where the tuner "lives" is not relevant, the issue is do you have enough tuners. If three is not enough, the Dish answer is to swap a Joey for a Hopper.
no joey has a tuner only hopper and when prime time us in use you only have the option of 2 live shows or 2 other rec. Once prime time is over 3-4hr then you get your third tunner back.
What is relevant is the hopper will not talk to each other its a mrv system that will not mrv.
I know its coming and their polishing the software but why would I believe it will work when a software bug on the 722 that keeps it disconnected from the internet has went on for months and two updates later and no fix.
I wish they would see each other but they do not.
And if the integration issue is a deal breaker, then you should definitely wait. I've thought about it for my situation, and either way it is an improvement over what I have currently.
I know I don't like D* MRV as it currently exists, that could likely change if RVU was out, but it isn't.
Bottom line for me I will likely go with Hopper as a relatively early adopter (I will wait for the first round of feedback). If D* comes out with what sounds like a firm and relatively soon ship date for the C31 I might delay the decision.
1. The Joey doesn't need a tuner. I pause live TV all the time and catch up during commercials, even on TV2. Only with H/J all will be in HD and I won't be aiming the UHF remote at that one spot on the wall to make it work.
2. Valid missed mark, coming by summer isn't SOON enough.
3. You can't put a front wheel drive transmission in a Crown Vic either... My old trusty 722k is on it's last leg, I'll be glad to be rid of it.
4. PTAT
? 6 channels instead of 3. great concept for the way people watch TV these daysAnother miss mark that you missed is OTA and sub channels not carried by Dish. I guess I'll be running these into the coax input of one TV until Dish gets it working (and only watching live
).1. The Joey doesn't need a tuner. I pause live TV all the time and catch up during commercials, even on TV2. Only with H/J all will be in HD and I won't be aiming the UHF remote at that one spot on the wall to make it work.
2. Valid missed mark, coming by summer isn't SOON enough.
3. You can't put a front wheel drive transmission in a Crown Vic either... My old trusty 722k is on it's last leg, I'll be glad to be rid of it.
4. PTAT
Another miss mark that you missed is OTA and sub channels not carried by Dish. I guess I'll be running these into the coax input of one TV until Dish gets it working (and only watching live
1. could cause conflicts if you need more then 1 tuner to record with hopper and joey being used. independent tuner would fix this
2. dish's version of soon or next summer could mean 2013 or 2014
3. if you can fit a 454 in a chevette you can put a fwd tranny in in a crown vic. it may not belong but with ingenuity anything is possible
4. only for those that watch network tv. for those that dont is 3 tuners (as i have said before)
i think dish has made a good step, but they still need to rethink some things
oh and i had forgetten about ota
i did prefer dishes built in method to the am21
1) my point was without a hard drive to pause live TV, a tuner in a Joey is not as effective, I prefer Dish's solution, I'll just get 2 Hoppers(and 3 Joeys). If you want your client tuner get the D* hr34/hr24, you can't pause live TV though and it'll cost you a little more.
2) you're right it could way in the future, this summer is not that far away to wait and find out.
3) you're right, but they are different generations, sometimes you have to throw out the old and start with the new rather than limit the new. I don't own my equipment so I'll swap it out, no loss to me.
4) luckily my wife only watches network TV, which leaves 5 tuners on the 2 Hoppers for my sons and me.
They are usually referring to the programming costs. Hardware costs, before Hopper and Joey, have been less for folks with more than one receiver. You said after the swap so I assume you are also getting promo pricing from Direct.
Tampa8 said:
The hopper is a great receiver. However, it does not have ota. This isn't a big deal to me but it is for some. You will be able to have 2 hoppers that will either be able to communicate giving you 4tb of space and record up to 9 shows at once. Or you can isolate the hoppers to keep them from communicating. The hopper is like a beefed up 922 only better.
9 shows at once?
its 6 unless you use ptat then its 12
then subtrat 1 for each joey watching tv
