I was able to upgrade to an H3 and 2 J3's to replace my 722 and 2 612's for free. I am not a relative of Charlies, but I am a long time subscriber. First Dish install I did myself using 2 Dish500's, several switches, and a 4900. That was obviously back in analog days and the best part (other than receiving Russian language programming for the first time) was the lack of noise and also obviously reasonable colors. Remember those ghastly analog days? We thought we were so modern to have a color TV. Ha!