Help with KBS World !

[stevo]

Hi Folks! I'm new here. I need some help of how to be able to get KBS World? Do I need a special dish or switch or something else? I have all of the channel on AT250 except KBS world.I currently switch to AT250 from absolute HD,But prior to that was AT250 or gold ?. I think I have 110,119 and 129, but KBS World is 118.7 . So is 118.7=119 ? I look at my dishes on the roof I see one is 1000 (but don't know which version?) and one 500. I don't think I have DP34 Or DP44.

Any help is greatly appreciate!

 

[mike123abc]

no 118.7 is separate from 119, you need a special LNB to get it. You can call Dish and find out how much they will charge for an upgrade of your dish to include 118.7.

 

[stevo]

Is there anything I can do it myself ? I have 1 extra dish500. I look at the chart here , I see KBS World in the 119 (11959 R tp 17 )?

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish119.html

 

[mike123abc]

Looking at SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - TheList (link above) it is only on 118.7. 118.7 requires a different type of LNB (it uses different frequencies) from the other Dish satellites. You have to get the special LNB.

 

[Mr Tony]

Lyngsat is outdated (since the owner is in Europe and cant see our sats this is normal)...that you posted above is the 118.7 part

The list at the top of the page is current. It shows KBS on 118.7 and 72.7
118.7 requires a special dish and LNB
72.7 requires a regular dish (dish 500 or dish 300) and LNB

 

[Mr Tony]

Looking at SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - TheList (link above) it is only on 118.7. 118.7 requires a different type of LNB (it uses different frequencies) from the other Dish satellites. You have to get the special LNB.

actually its also on 72.7 and they wouldnt need the special LNB

 

[mike123abc]

actually its also on 72.7 and they wouldnt need the special LNB

I did not look at 72.7, just on 118.7/61.5, surprised they put it on 72.7.

 

[stevo]

actually its also on 72.7 and they wouldnt need the special LNB

Can I get 72.7 from So Cal with dish500 ?

 

[31cold]

We've done KBS world off 61.5 when E* used to give problems with 1000+ and 44 switches. Don't know if it is still there what with the way 61.5 is going these days, but if it is then wing dish into 4th port of 1000.2 and checkswitch.

 

[TonyT@DISH Network]

9850 (channel number) FOR KBS World on 61.5, the number may be the same on other sats (looks that way on my screen anyway). If you want you can check your installation summary screen (Menu-6-1-1, then Check Switch) for the grid on what sats are actually installed. If we can verify the tagging I can check and see whats available to get it working for you, or give you where to go to get it. Hit here on the thread and I'll see what I can do.

 

[sbsi]

KBS World is on 704 and 9850.

Some people get the 704 channel and the channel is sharper. Most people get it on 9850. You need a second dish pointing to the angle.

 

[r10fret]

KBSworld on 61.5 was higher res then 118, since it moved from 61.5 to 72.7 last week and went MPEG4 I have not seen that new version since I am only on (61.5, 110,118,119,129). KBSworld is also still on 9850 @ 121 for folks in Hawaii.

http://www.echostarsatelliteservices.com/SatelliteFleet/CoverageAreas.aspx#EchoStar9

 

[stevo]

9850 (channel number) FOR KBS World on 61.5, the number may be the same on other sats (looks that way on my screen anyway). If you want you can check your installation summary screen (Menu-6-1-1, then Check Switch) for the grid on what sats are actually installed. If we can verify the tagging I can check and see whats available to get it working for you, or give you where to go to get it. Hit here on the thread and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks Tony ! OK I just checked and I have 110,119 and 129.

 

[DishSubLA]

KBS World is on 704 and 9850.

Some people get the 704 channel and the channel is sharper. Most people get it on 9850. You need a second dish pointing to the angle.

All the internationals at 118 are fuzzy compared to what they were at 148. Dish is cramming all the internationals and some LIL's at 118 (I think Ku FSS may have less bandwidth?) and the result is quite the compromise in PQ for internationals. No surprise a more "sharp" PQ at a different sat location.

 

[r10fret]

Not " all " internationals at 118 have a softer look. In fact the internationals at 61.5 are much more compressed causing more pixelation with some transponders having 15 - 18 channels vs 10 - 12 at 118 both using MPEG2 QPSK 20000 SR and slightly different FEC, The problem at 118 seems to be a reduction in resolution somewhere along the line from equipment mis-configuration, they fix KBS world then it reverts back, they fixed it again then it reverts back again to the soft appearence. Some of the internationals in the other language packs look far superior compression wise to the 61.5 versions which are extremely compressed down to 1.94 mbps. Cheyenne uplink TOC told me about a year ago that they handle 118 and 61.5 internationals were moved to Gilbert a few years ago, The problem could be in the plant not being entirely SDI from the output of the downlink receiver used for certain channels on 118, or perhaps KBS world is at 118 is a second generation turnaround from 121. It is not a turnaround of 61.5 since all internationals on 61.5 are several seconds after 118 in a side by side comparison, this is most likely due to the 61.5 internationals going through a second round of a time delayed rate shaping analysis which is what even allows such extreme compression ratios on 61.5 MPEG2 transponders.