Help me plzz in find hispasat 30w

[Rachidhowa]

hello guys
I have tried several days. find hispasat 30w. but do not capture.
I 90cm offset dish and universal lnbf
and i set lnb in 10600
and 22khz to on
12052 V 27500
and skew -57
i live in houston texas hepl me plzz

 

[primestar31]

Address: houston, tx
Latitude: 29.7602°
Longitude: -95.3694°

Satellite: 30W HISPASAT 1C | HISPASAT 1D | HISPASAT 1E | SPAINSAT
Elevation: 12.7°
Azimuth (true): 102.8°
Azimuth (magn.): 99.9°

LNB Skew [?]: -57.8°
Turn counter-clockwise standing behind the dish

That elevation is quite low on the horizon. You might have to put the dish up on a 30ft tower to get that low. Unless of course you have NO trees or anything else in the way. If this is the first time you have setup a dish, perhaps you could start with 97w and get that tuned in so you know everything works. THEN, try moving it to 30w. 97w is an easy sat to get in.

 

[FaT Air]

Satellite: 30W HISPASAT 1C | HISPASAT 1D | HISPASAT 1E | SPAINSAT
Elevation: 12.7° Azimuth (true): 102.8°

Tomorrow morning, the sun will be at azimuth 102.6 at 09:10 in the morning. The suns altitude will be 22.3° so will be about 10 degrees above Hispasat. (approximate as only used Houston as location, but should be very close)
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php
10° is approximately the length of my thumb(to joint in palm) at arms length. (if that helps any)
to satelliteguys & happy satellite hunting

 

[polgyver]

It seems you could have problem with setting up the dish's elevation.
There is a trick, just use small mirror glued to the dish, roughly in it center, (in fact, it could go in any place on the dish).
Use masking or electrical tape on edges of this small mirror.
If tomorrow, March 22, the Sun will be visible in the morning, at 8.25 AM, adjust the elevation and the azimuth as to get reflection from the small mirror on the LNBF's "face".
At this hour and minute, the Sun will be at azimuth ninety-something, not on the required 102.8, so, you would need to turn the dish slowly more South, until you catch the signal

 

[FaT Air]

Just thought of something else - - is the dish capable of aiming at elevation 12.7°?? Many don't. Many only go 'down to' around 20 ° or so. May require inverting the dish. Or like I did - sidewinder.

 

[Rachidhowa]

I truly appreciate your help in guiding me through the process. I have alread, y have access to Amazonas and Galaxy 19, now I am looking to aim hispasat.
Can you please explain what i need to do in order to get my dish elevated higher than 20 grade, you mentioned that I would need to invert the dish...this is where I do not understand.

 

[richyrich]

When pointing is dependent on; bigger dish: Texas works, say a 280 cm or larger!

The feedhorn polarity experiment; if you take an lnbf in circular mode or linear, you need a stable signal at dish; and the entries are in receivers +1 the feedhorn has gone very close to 90 degrees at that 57; it would need a perfect dish with no other offsets missing; you have to see no obstacles may exist; so in most spectrum work; and what channels are you looking for?

Some of the satellites many south american countries received north american feeds via satellites they paid a whole lot to rent space; but there was hardly anything to sell them available ( like gem and Discovery today ). However, if the satellites have been upgraded in the recent years, and today rate for advertising dollars pay!

 

[FaT Air]

Should be a scale on the side of the dishes mount. Can the indicator on it be adjusted to 12?
If not, the usual way is to invert it on the mount.

 

[polgyver]

I truly appreciate your help in guiding me through the process. I have alread, y have access to Amazonas and Galaxy 19, now I am looking to aim hispasat.
Can you please explain what i need to do in order to get my dish elevated higher than 20 grade, you mentioned that I would need to invert the dish...this is where I do not understand.

You need the dish elevated LOWER than 20 degree. The dish should be "looking" at the ground when set to 12 degree elevation.
If the bracket of your dish does not allow to lower the dish below 20 degree (as FaT Air noticed), then, before attempting to mount it upside down or sideways, try to "cheat" on the position of "J" pipe or mast : make it lean towards the satellite by 10 degree.
Can you, please, take some photos of your dish and its field of view?
Cheers, polgyver

 

[Cham]

I have used the inverted dish, it works ok. You basically have to take the dish mount apart and install the LNBF arm upside down on top of the dish instead of the bottom where it usually goes, so the LNBF is pointing downward toward the reflector. I think I have some pictures:



Showing the back might help, picture can be worth a thousand words! This was set up last winter pointing at 30W. This year I set up a dsih with a motor attached to the roof using a 15' 3" mast. It is nice and solid, but in order to get 30w I have to run it east to the hardware limit of the motor using diseqc control (not usals). This works better than the ground mounting, I likely get some fresnel scattering with 6 degree elevation from here, so the higher up it is the better. 12053 is a fairly weak tp on that satellite though. Try for 11884 V 27500, it is quite a bit stronger. Once you fine tune that one you can try for 12053.

 

[FaT Air]

Did you also invert the dish itself? That's a requirement to keep the focal point focused.

 

[Cham]

Did you also invert the dish itself? That's a requirement to keep the focal point focused.

In my case you have to otherwise the LNB arm will not fit over the dish. The mounting bolts through the reflector are not in the center as I would expect with most reflectors.

 

[Cham]

I should also mention just for fun... the spot where that Ku dish is located, right now there is about 5' of snow!

 

[jorgek]

With the dish inverted how is the LNB skew affected?

 

[FaT Air]

LNB skew is unaffected.
On another note, the mirror trick will work inverted also. (Or sideways even)

 

[jorgek]

I think Pogyver has the best solution, make the mast/pole lean towards the satellite by 10 degree.

But before doing anything drastic make sure that you have line of sight to the sat.

 

[danristheman]

30 w is like the big fish your always looking for it but when you find it you want to sit and watch it.

Dan rose

 

[FaT Air]

Rachidhowa, any progress?